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zbraz14 Says:
Oct 31, 2008 - "As for this BS socialism charge... Even if Obama were a HARDCORE Commie for America, I would support him over a party thats openly against America and wants to cede from the Union." That shows you the mentality of the ignorant left. They have no idea what they are talking about. "Cede from you union" Ignorant! Do just a little study on your own. Read up on socialism and communism before you start talking about things that you know nothing about.
u8mypie Says:
Oct 31, 2008 - Entrepreneur, were u the builder or the building? Were u the "charitor" or the charity? U say we're left "haters" so what does that make u: Right or left? Get the fence outta ur crotch and pick a side! This remote controlled interview is best given to Parrot Palin, who when given a cue card and a script, still manages to f*** it up! Go 2 college, get a degree prove u can learn. As far as ur bath water, that was a good one! lol Mainly cuz, I heard u don't bathe!!! dumb ass
AAmed1980 Says:
Nov 1, 2008 - I know enough about socialism to know Obama is not one... You people have a very shallow interpretation of everything. But you obvly didnt get my point, that atleast shows your iorance and bias as a right winger. As for the AKIP, go and read on their official site.. The are a secessionist party that "Become a separate and Independent Nation." This is a direct quote. So exln how you are not an ignorant right wing tool when you try to claim they arent...
gcsecsi Says:
Nov 1, 2008 - Yea, how dare those people give an opposing view against the Messiah, this is a prime example why we need the fairness doctrine so we can silence these opposing views and elect only dictators like "The Great Barrak Hussien Obama"! How dare these truth seeking networks!
gcsecsi Says:
Nov 1, 2008 - I guess Biden thought he was being interviewed by the "In The Tank for Obama" media! Barbara West has educated him that many of us Floridians do not pamper to or agree with these socialist and their marxist views, let's spread some wealth, somebody give this woman a raise!
trentkehl Says:
Nov 2, 2008 - I agree with you that candidates should be asked tough questions, I just don't think her question was a good example of one. You didn't address that in your response. I also don't get what you are trying to say by "Hussein's" camp." Is Obama like Sadam Hussein? How does that make any sense? How does the media wanting Obama's past to be off-limits relate to this video? Do you really think he's a Marxist because he wants to change tax rates by increasing taxes on the upper class? Nonsense.
RamandoDMag Says:
Nov 3, 2008 - OMG, A REPORTER DOING HER JOB! OMG! Go Barbara!
movingroove Says:
Nov 3, 2008 - Taxes were originally started to build roads, have order and justice, and maintain a government. It was never intended to just to be given to citizens. It was after the depression that they were able to sell the idea to provide for the people. There was a lot of reluctance because they could see the end result that we are seeing today. And after that time, the government has continued down this slippery slope. We have become more and more a socialist country. "Spread the wealth around = Marxism!
trentkehl Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Well, I don't think a change in the progressive tax system, a system that no candidates are talking about changing, is socialism, marxism, or anything radical. It's a huge leap in logic to say so, in my opinion. I respect the Republican ideas that lower taxes and smaller government is a "benefits maximizing" combination for the country at large (ultimately, that is a complex math problem), but taking a non-extreme position and labeling it Marxist is childish because it's not logical.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Socialism philosophy advocates that production, distribution and exchange should be owned by the community as a whole. The US system is even worse than socialism because we have people receiving money without participation in production. The "production" people are required to fork over their hard earned money for NOTHING in return. What if they all stopped doing that? Then what? They close the borders, shut us in this country.... that's Marxism!
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Our local communities should and do help people in need. There are far too many people abusing the system. I see it all the time. Ex.I am aware of a person that hunts and can pack haul out a BEAR but can't work because he's disabled. Do you know how heavy a bear is?! He receives welfare checks and medicare and made $80,000 building bikes... cash of course. He talks about his last trip to Mexico. That is just one example, I can give you more but do you see the point.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - We have got to understand that we have to get a handle on this because our "good intentions" will bring down this country. If Obama wins, many of us are already thinking along the terms of not working or being as productive, and reducing staff. What's the point? Our hard earned money will be give to those that do nothing to help themselves. What the point in busting our butts. DO YOU GET IT!
trentkehl Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - And nobody in the election advocates that everything should be owned by the entire community. Or do you think someone does because he wants to raise taxes on one group and lower it on another? Again, that's a huge leap in logic. Further, not sure what you mean by "NOTHING." I get your point (people who pay taxes get less for their money than the people who pay more), but those kinds of points are too simple - it's black and white thinking that is so typical of conservative ideology.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - NOTHING means nothing! These people are given everything they need to exist and they don't have to work themselves. Like the example I've given below. I wouldn't mind a trip to Mexico and have free medical care. What a life. What do you think "spread the wealth around" means? To me that means take money from people that work hard and give it to people that don't want to work. I'm not trying to be insulting but come on these people are benefiting from bleeding heart liberals.
trentkehl Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Well, we all benefit from highways, national security, public school systems, etc., so I think "NOTHING" means "Not as much as I should" to be precise. Anyway, I think "spread the wealth around" means a reallocation of the current progressive tax brackets. I didn't read more into than that. I feel like the marginal utility of each dollar you make is less and less as you make more, so it's okay to pay more taxes and help out those that aren't as fortunate or have made different choices.
trentkehl Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - To continue...I think I get where you're coming from. My only objection, and it started from the video clip, is that people with philosophies like yours too often take too many leaps in logic. Obama wants to change the tax brackets. You don't like the notion of that very much because you think people who make more shouldn't have to pay as much they do already. Fine. Legitimate point of view. But taking it to "socialism" and "marxism" is not legit. That's all.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Then let me put this in formal "logic" form. Here's the syllogistic platform: Premise A: If there are more people in the wagon than pulling the wagon, it will come to a halt. Premise B: There are already more people in the wagon. Conclusion C: Therefore, the wagon will come to a halt. If it's not obvious Obama is putting more people in the wagon. Socialism has as it's ultimate objective egalitarianism. What Obama will achieve is a wagon going nowhere.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Those that are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. You sound like an intelligent guy and if you did your homework in socialism you would see it for yourself.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Just got the news that Obama won... Remember these times because we are headed down a road from which he shall never return...
tjsmrc Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - I am sorry to say, you are probably correct... Hard times are coming!
trentkehl Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - Again, I get your point. It's not a complicated point, and I get it. It's just not right, and, as usual, there's an over-simplified story to tell it. Anyway, we'll see how things are in 4 years.
movingroove Says:
Nov 4, 2008 - You're making it too complicated. It is a simple point and apparently you still don't get it as well as so many others. That's why Obama is president. All of this is academic anyway because we have reached the point of no return. I feel sad for our children. We are a society of illiterate people... truly.
shandonner Says:
Nov 5, 2008 - did you see the kids at the white house of the old hammer i guess they know where this country is going
shandonner Says:
Nov 6, 2008 - ok time are hard here but some have the idea that he as are going to lead to hard times. And times will get much worse if we are attacked and Russia is testing him and he is not in the white house yet
h0tpoop Says:
Oct 31, 2008 - its all so clear now. when obama said he wants to spread the wealth around, he actually meant he didnt want to spread the wealth around. thanks joe biden!