Thunderf00t - Pig Flu

Chuloloc Says:

May 7, 2009 - Awesome. Thanks for the advice.

KosmicCitizen Says:

May 7, 2009 - So the question becomes - if the panic is so disproportionate, why is it happening?

8WholeThing Says:

May 7, 2009 - The take-home message I get from Thunderfoot is that this could be the big one or not, but we need to have the health care systems in place to contain the big one when it comes. Nobody can dispute the personal preventive measures but there is a warning about the higher level measures we should have.

JasperAvi Says:

May 7, 2009 - No, not Armenian.

JasperAvi Says:

May 7, 2009 - I look in the mirror daily, and yes I cry tears of pain and sorrow.

JasperAvi Says:

May 7, 2009 - Best compliment I've ever received on YouTube.

eurohim Says:

May 7, 2009 - Nice pwn job.

Ikaath Says:

May 7, 2009 - Sorry but, 1) It was unknown until about 30th April how homologous this H1N1 variant was to the spanish flu (also H1N1). Hence the initial caution 2) AFTER sequencing the genome it was found that the H1 protein did not have the required mutation to create cytokine storm-like reactions in healthy people - making it much less dangerous. 3) Initial death rates from Mexico were HIGH. They have now been revised to be much lower. The point? Initially it looked very bad but now it is ok.

Ikaath Says:

May 7, 2009 - As I have said elsewhere Tf00t was quite late in the day with his videos - when he made the first one we already knew that the virus was not likely to have a high mortality rate - probably no higher than seasonal flu. This said the initial reaction was justified - we can't take the threat too lightly. If this did turn out to be as bad as it looked initially we would have been in big trouble had governments not thrown their weight behind containment.

xplicitvio Says:

May 7, 2009 - hahaha they gotta be CGI dude...jk good vid tho.

slintirreg Says:

May 7, 2009 - Yes he assumes this and that it boils down to the point: no one really knows but if we don't watch our back it may be as deadly as spanish flu in 1918 (that is NORMAL flu or at least the most common of the 3 common types) and it may kill 50.000.000 maybe not. Tfoots point is: Better safe than sorry!

JasperAvi Says:

May 7, 2009 - Every time i upload a video I CGI the whole fucking thing.. TRUST ME... You DO NOT want to see what I actually look like.

melbn Says:

May 7, 2009 - lulz this guy is a scientists in all areas!

TeslasRadio Says:

May 7, 2009 - The sharing gum with your friend thing, how would that spread the disease?

IsaacBickerstaffEsq Says:

May 7, 2009 - "Better safe than sorry!" -- Howard Hughes

WhatsAfterThisPlace Says:

May 7, 2009 - Just messing around you know

JasperAvi Says:

May 7, 2009 - Research is phenomenally useful... :)

JasperAvi Says:

May 7, 2009 - This is the internetz... I almost NEVER assume anything is serious.

wolfeedarkfang Says:

May 7, 2009 - lol. :D

himynameiscarson Says:

May 15, 2009 - you fucking suck neard

okihelena Says:

May 19, 2009 - Nice copy from Wikipedia = The numbers he used are arbitrary. They're used for purposes of comparison. The transmission rate for seasonal flu is around 5-20%, the transmission rate for swine flu is around 25%, so 4 x might be an exaggeration, but even 3 x would be a huge difference. Anyway, there shouldn't have been that many people infected after a week, as a generation is 5 days long. Of course we can't tell what's going to happen with it. There is HAZARD, as tf00t says.

okihelena Says:

May 19, 2009 - It spreads faster than seasonal flu, and since we have less native immunity, if it mutates to something far nastier, we're done for. Okay, now you're saying that swine flu would be killing at the same rate during the summer than during the winter when seasonal flu hits? Hmm... good logic. Compare the number of people who die from Swine Flu to people who die from Seasonal flu during this time of year... what if it's something like... 10? Then the whole world is going to die!

okihelena Says:

May 19, 2009 - Re your medical advancement argument, what is it that one can do to fight infections like influenza? Nothing. We have better practices like staying warm, keeping yourself clean, but these don't fight the infection. Hence the 50% fatality rate of SARS; nothing we could have done. Our medicine doesn't fight off viruses, it just fights the symptoms. All we can do is vaccinate. The close proximity means that people get infected faster, it doesn't mean that the virus becomes any less deadly.

okihelena Says:

May 19, 2009 - Wrong.The reason why Spanish Flu was deadly not because of their weak immune systems,but because of their strong immune systems. Spanish flu caused their immune systems to overreact, attacking native tissue as well, causing pneumonia and death. Ironically, Spanish flu is less deadly towards the young and elderly. The thing is we're afraid of the current Swine Flu mutating into something comparable to Spanish Flu, not because we believe that in its current form it is as deadly as the Spanish Flu.

okihelena Says:

May 19, 2009 - Exactly. Because they're mutating so fast, we are worried that it would become deadly, and because it would have already spread through the population, we're done for. The reason why there's so much hype is because we're trying to slow down its progress here and now such that it won't suddenly come back during the winter and lo and behold, a pandemic on our hands. Current symptoms does not equal pandemic potential, it's the potential to become deadly after having spread.