Zeitgeist [Religion] The Greatest Story Ever Sold (2 of 3)

naneux Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - only**

kporwol Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - the main problem is that we try to explain things which are OUT of our conciseness , our judgement is based only on life experiences , value system, knowledge, conciseness and spiritual level , we cannot go behind , so that any God or the Universe history explanation is incomplete and irrelevant (to many missing points out of conciseness) , imagine ANTS trying to explain nano-technology or quantum physics

kporwol Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - you cannot argue/ confirm about facts which you are not aware of it , however small piece of conciseness can dramatically change your entire point of view, so if you want to see bigger chunk you need to increase your conciseness level and knowledge about how this word works at any level including spiritual levels...

BlindfoldedPoet Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - But saying Matter cannot explain its own existence thus it must come from non-physical things, is jumping to conclusions. you base that assumption on absolutely nothing. Btw can you define non-physical? Do you think that energy is non physical? Just so i know what you mean by non physical.

kporwol Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - my own clue before you try to understand your outer world to need to understand to inner world ... because your inner world creates your outer world , as I said before your judgement is purely based on your human experiences , knowledge, value system etc.....

nicoheckens1 Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - I will say this, and think before you blow up and say I'm stupid, which i do anticipate. We have the Big Bang at which the universe began (one can fairly well grant, at least at this point is science thinking) and before the bang all of the universe was shrunk down ti a singularity. Is it correct to say that a singularity as defined by science is the point at which all the laws of physics break down? Since you warn against the naturalism and its conflict with super- naturalism.

nicoheckens1 Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - which is the belief that God is the only sufficient explanation of the universe. And you would warn is dangerous or unscientific. Technically, yours is not either since when quantum theory holds way, randomness in the subatomic world is made basis for randomness in life. Since science and philosophy (we are warned) cannot be extrapolated. Are you not making the very same extrapolation that you would warn us against?

flyingshrapnel09 Says:

Nov 14, 2009 - African Americans and some illuminated Whites have known this for years but the lapdog media kept referring to it as Black Studies, inciting the masses to excoriate these teachings. The fact is Egypt is in Africa and even today throughout Black Africa many of these ancient customs and beliefs are still practiced. Herodotus, Strabo and Diodorus gave descriptions as to what these people looked like and we need to all confess that we have been duped for many centuries by those in church and state.

a940000 Says:

Nov 16, 2009 - Jesus loves you anyway. =D

chevrolet37 Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - you mean the sun?

naneux Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - so belief in god is the only sufficient explanation of the universe, belief, a belief is an explanation.

gibsongold1970 Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - HE is NOT the sun.He is the SON. read ezekiel. DO NOT BOW TO THE SUN. THAT IS MY ADVICE.good luck!

naneux Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - have you seen the water expirement by the chinese dude on water bottles, why couldnt that be considered spiritual, since the effects of thought/intention are not measurable? or are they measurable?

nicoheckens1 Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - What i said, is where i stand. The security you have in yourself, money, intelligence, friends, family will all be gone when you die. You have no security. Learn from Socrates before he died All of the wisdom of this world is but a tiny raft upon which we must set sail when we leave this earth. If only there was a firmer foundation upon which to sail, perhaps some divine word.

nicoheckens1 Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - I was explaining that "super-naturalism" is the belief that a creator is the only sufficient explanation of the universe. The worse the degeneration of morality in a person gets the better he thinks of himself (i'm a good person). You have two directions to go. You heart is hardened and your conscience doesn't speak anymore. Your freedom to do whatever you want is so important to you that the thought of God running this whole thing is is so horrible he might wet blanket your actions.

naneux Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - @nicoheckens1 how does the degeneration of morality in a person cause him to think he is a good person, i dont get that, just because i choose to lie over and over again does not mean I think I am better in any way, im just lying, thats all, nothing else, a simple lie, god couldnt "wet blanket" anything, even if god, today came and appeared unto me in a physical form and said, here im real, now what, I would deny god and everything he stands for,

naneux Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - @nicoheckens1 if god made himself apparent I would then accept my Master Lord Lucifer because at least he is straight forward, honest, and not full of judgment, he accepts us as we are, sin or no sin. heven or hell. he is our earthly master. lol

nicoheckens1 Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - Humbling though it is that you are quick to admit that your mind is carnal and you have enmity towards a Holy God. Jesus is lord which every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess.

dcoalmighty1 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - your beyond abhorrent glorified cult known as christianity is nothing but theft, imperialism and genocide. We villify those such a Hitler (who of course was a villian) but in reality his death toll was miniscule next to those slaughtered in the name of "Jesus".

MournfulWine Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Anyone who doesn't already know that most christian myth was changed and figured to cover over pagan myth never studied any religious history. All their holidays coincide, they made jesus's birthday coincide with pagan gods at a council, to cover it up. It was a power grab by the post-constantine emperor's of rome, One God, ONE EMPEROR.

jmelbourne9 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Thanks for posting this I agreee ! I also canme up with the same answer! ∞ ♂♀ Peace, Harmony, Light Love ~Namaste! A/Ω ☼ ॐ ∞

r0ckmyl1fe Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - i would love to know where your sources got there information from

a940000 Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - Go God!!!!!

dcoalmighty1 Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - rocvkmylife, the factuality of this is very easily found. Christianity, and it's jesus myth and holidays are entirely modeled after preceding pagan beliefs and celebrations. This was done entirely with the purpose of making it easy to convert the people without causing them to have to alter thier lives greatly to change faiths, You barely need to search to find easy evidence of this, look up the ancient pagan holidays of Yule and Ostara, and thier meanings. Sound familiar?

travro25 Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - They had emporer's before constantine, before Jesus (Pharoahs for example), our holiday's coincide because assimilation is usually a hyridization of tradition and ethics; as the apostle Paul said: As for them that were of law, I became of law - as to lead them to Christ. Nothing in the Bible says Christ was born on December 25th or rose from the dead in April. But what the bible does say, what is totally ignored here is that Jesus loves you.