I AM AN ATHEIST NOT A PEARLIST!

InFromTheVoid Says:

Aug 24, 2009 - weird, I am very familar with atheism but had never heard the label "pearlist", until I watched TF. WHere and when did it come about????

InFromTheVoid Says:

Aug 24, 2009 - Great video..I agree 100%

xIntoThePitx Says:

Aug 25, 2009 - Sorry for the delay in response Orygyn. I haven't been able to find the original source of TF's FSM analogy that you quoted, but that isin't a huge issue. From what I remember, TF was substituting FSM Deity inplace of a fiction Atheist Deity. The idea was to show how silly the idea of a FSM truely is (refering to Ray's God). An Atheist [Atheism] denies the existance of God. A Pearlist [Atheist] holds the same belief. An Atheist who holds a strong scientific knowledge and understanding.

emelianenkoo Says:

Aug 25, 2009 - I agree with you, however at least it says something about the person, where as atheist is utterly meaningless. 5/5 though :)

Orygyn Says:

Aug 25, 2009 - Thanks. "Pearlist" was conceived out of thunderf00t's video "Rejecting Atheism".

Orygyn Says:

Aug 25, 2009 - I don't follow. The FSM quote is 30 seconds into "Rejecting Atheism". I agree that pearlism is a subset of atheism but my point that in the context of religion, atheism is not necessary, still stands.

Orygyn Says:

Aug 25, 2009 - Thanks and good point, I also agree.

xIntoThePitx Says:

Aug 26, 2009 - Oh Ok. I thought the FSM quote was from the TF vs Ray series (no wonder I couldn't find it). "It's a false analogy. FSM rejectionism describes something you don't accept when, specifically in the context of religion, you do accept something" TF is saying that people should be described by what they accept. Christians don't accept FSM, given that, Christians aren't described as FSM rejectionists. Atheism describes a non-belief, PEARLism describes a belief. An Atheist who believes in PEARL

Orygyn Says:

Aug 26, 2009 - OK.

Starsandfunk Says:

Sep 7, 2009 - I disagree with this video. Pearlist describes a persons moral principles and philosophy on life - not 'religious' beliefs. Atheist is just a term for describing what you are not. And it leaves those who recognise that religion is bullshit wide open to criticism that they supposedly 'don't believe in anything'. If we are going to collectively take down religion once and for all, we need to define to others what we stand for, not what we don't stand for.

Orygyn Says:

Sep 7, 2009 - Absolutely but my point is people will call you an atheist no matter what. In terms of religious beliefs, you are stuck with a word that describes something you don't accept and, in that context, it is irreplaceable.

Distpg7 Says:

Sep 27, 2009 - i see your point. Pearlist has nothing to do with religion. They are both two completely different topics. One states the acceptance of Physical Evidence and Reason. Great. Now what does that have to do with Atheism?

jameshanley40 Says:

Sep 30, 2009 - You are such idiots. An implication of pearlism, is being an atheist. A pearlist would reject belief in an afterlife too. An atheist may believe in an afterlife. His Atheism RIGHTLY comes from being a pearlist. You are just upset 'cos you may look silly in a room. Boo hoo. You wimp! You're a coward inside. An atheist may believe in horoscopes. A pearlist would not. You could describe yourself as pearlist and atheist. But I don't think you have the sense for this.

SgtBriZZle Says:

Sep 30, 2009 - Personally, I like the term Atheist more as well. I feel it clears up the confusion that saying Pearlist would undoubtedly cause, and both are intended to mean the same thing. I think the position that Thunderf00t was taking by calling himself a Pearlist, was that there was no need for the term Atheist, and that there was no need to explain that Pearlist was Atheist because Pearlist is Physical Evidence and Reasoned Logic, something that religion can never be. This is just my speculation.

Orygyn Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - I'm not sure I follow your question. My objection with thunderf00t is when he says that the term atheist is redundant because it describes something you don't accept. But something must be used to describe the position of not believing in a god.

Orygyn Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - OK... I agree with what you said so where's all the attacks coming from? Thunderf00t clearly said that he believes the word atheist is redundant because "it describes something we don't accept". That's my main concern, it simply doesn't follow.

Orygyn Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - It would still be needed because pearlism is a subset of atheism.

aartvegan Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - I'm more of a non-theist.

Orygyn Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - Ah. That's even more general.

SgtBriZZle Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - Oh I agree with you, I was just speculating on what Thunderf00t may have been getting at. The way I see it you can be an Atheist without being a Pearlist, but you can't be a Pearlist without being an Atheist. This is just my interpretation of the meanings, but I am on board with what you are saying =)

Orygyn Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - I was never in any doubt about that, sorry if it wasn't conveyed.

jameshanley40 Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - "a stupid insane word to describe someone's religious beliefs" (you state this knowing you're wrong) "it doesn't describe religious beliefs" (right. so you change your mind - correcting yourself mid clip. so right from the start you sounded silly) "if anyone other than thunderf00t,..it wouldn't have caught on" (so the issue for you is that it wouldn't have caught on. and hasn't much. so it's popularity to you) lots of silly lines in your video.

jameshanley40 Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - "it could only ever replace atheism" No they are not interchangeable. "it says nothing about religion" true "it implies that theist's logic isn't reasoned" false,. see above statement you made! "you..hate jesus and god in the eyes of theists" (only that kind of jesus believing type of theist) "show people that atheists are good guys." (so this is still your main concern over accuracy) "I am an atheist not a pearlist" (oh really, so you don't accept evidence and reason)

jameshanley40 Says:

Oct 1, 2009 - In theory, you can be a pearlist and not an atheist, Or, an atheist and not a pearlist. theists that reads William Lane Craig are looking for and sometimes basing their belief, on Reason . The reasoning may be wrong. But it's based on reason. And in theory, a deity could give physical evidence.

Orygyn Says:

Oct 2, 2009 - Right, I'll have to make another video clarifying everything.