A Reformed Response to GIIVideo on God's Plan

gusb232 Says:

Dec 15, 2008 - 1.God is God; a tautology 2. God is a Racist 3. Yawhew Made evil for the sake of more evil. The God of the bible can do what he pleases , And Even the most immoral of injustices can be done in yahweh's name. Is there any evil That may not justified by this illogical hand waving???

SirTheistDRF Says:

Dec 15, 2008 - "1.God is God; a tautology" May I rather say God has a right to do so. "2. God is a Racist" Ok, I guess the french, romans, americans and everyone who tried to defend their own land are racists. "3. Yawhew Made evil for the sake of more evil." I think the CON explains in an example of why God allows evil, and that is, to sharpen the minds of those who are predestined to do good.

gusb232 Says:

Dec 15, 2008 - 1. a tautology is meaning less, so the question is Why is Yahweh God? 2. I did not allude even slightly to such a generalization. rather A God that chooses sides in wars, commands ethnic cleansing, and doubles as an omniscient Real estate broker seems petty, evil, manmade and Mythical! 3. Yes possibly, But what is good? --that what Yahweh has predestined?-- Because Yahweh has predestined good?-- What is good?--- site verse Repeat!

SirTheistDRF Says:

Dec 15, 2008 - "1. a tautology is meaning less, so the question is Why is Yahweh God?" Why is yahweh God? A tautology is necessary for things which are self-existing. According to you, why does our universe exist? "omniscient Real estate broker seems petty, evil, manmade and Mythical!" That's subjective. "Yes possibly, But what is good?" Good is what God has decided is good.

gusb232 Says:

Dec 15, 2008 - 1. Agreed! 'There are some truths that can never be proven true' (Godel's incompleteness theorem).But Yahweh Is no more Objectively self-evident then Zeus or Tezcatlipoca. These ARE Subjective and Colloquial answers to who/what God is. I dont Claim to know the answer to all such existential questions, It is delusional to think otherwise. Reading the bible convinced me that Yahweh Cannot be such a defined: Good God. Is it possible that Yahweh is Not God. Why is Yahweh Self-evident?

Andrewkinghorn15 Says:

Dec 17, 2008 - You an Aaron are doing a great job. They are very good! God bless

edwardhirsch Says:

Dec 27, 2008 - To UKChristian Aaron: During my formative years, I read Dostoevsky's novel, 'The Brothers Karamazov'. In the chapter, 'Rebellion', Dostoevsky poses a serious argument against God's divine "plan" for the world by citing the suffering of children. Dostoevsky's character, Ivan, says that if the suffering of children is preordained by God, then he does not want any part of creation - even if, at the end of time, all is mysteriously understood. If such a God exists, he rejects salvation.

edwardhirsch Says:

Dec 27, 2008 - To UKChristian Aaron (Pt. 2): "What good can hell do, since those children have already been tortured? And what becomes of harmony, if there is hell? I want to forgive. I want to embrace. I don't want more suffering. And if the sufferings of children go to swell the sum of sufferings which was necessary to pay for truth, then I protest that the truth is not worth such a price. I don't want the mother to embrace the oppressor who threw her son to the dogs! She dare not forgive him!"

EmeraldView Says:

Feb 15, 2009 - You are a disgrace to the more enlightened reputation of the English people, and the accent many people in the States regard as being associated with reasoned intellect. It would come as no surprise to find out that you were a Bush and Iraq invasion supporter (as clearly there were a few minorities in the UK, who took that view). But regardless, I guess it's not surprising that even in the UK there are those still infected with the absurdity of religious belief. It is sad though.

wutee64 Says:

Feb 16, 2009 - "your greatest problem is you believe "GOD" but when things badly happen, "GOD" never show up, then i guess you pretty sad...for believin something that Never exist,, sadly but true i'm the living example the greatest testimonies that there is NO GOD, even if there is .. JESUS Christ is NOT the one... hahaha try me....10 years of prayer turn out to be a vapour in the air...my friend wake up B4 it's too late...i aldy did after more then 10 year in coma under the deluision....

ukchristian28 Says:

Feb 16, 2009 - I am so pleased and thank the Lord that I have had the opportunity to provide for you, a forum where you can stroke your inflated ego by telling me how much more intelligent and rational you are when compared to myself. I must bow to your superior intellect in only providing mocking assertions, rather than good reasons for rejecting belief in God. Well done my good friend. You are a credit to your country and a shining example to us all.

sillypuppy2 Says:

Mar 20, 2009 - christians believe that god is around when bad things happen. don't they pray to god to be with the people who are emotionally and psychologically affected by said situation and also to be with the departed

wutee64 Says:

Mar 21, 2009 - when good happen, praise be to "GOD" but when bad incurr...well blame the devil. why don't just accept the rational thinking rather then delusion,, if it's the devil deed God allow it, then something is wrong with GOD, 2 things about God, HE is NOT powerfull or He GODDamm never exist.. it's pointless to discuss something that never exist.. if there's a God,, hahaha i'm already married for past 5 years, needn't have to go for dating svs till today..There's No Never a God at the 1st place....

ukchristian28 Says:

Mar 21, 2009 - Yes, very enlightening. How about something to back up your assertions? If not, go away and don't waste my time.

wutee64 Says:

Mar 21, 2009 - i didn't, it's your delusion waste your times...recession will test your faith where is GOD.... hahaha

ukchristian28 Says:

Mar 21, 2009 - Are you drunk Sir?

hgryphon Says:

May 11, 2009 - So let me see if I understand your video. You say god plans every moment of every day, but then say that we can choose to be good or evil. I believe these are mutually exclusive things, and I would like to hear how both are possible. Also, you say god uses evil as part of his plan, and when he does so, he is free of blame, but the people he uses to commit the evil parts of his plan are guilty of being evil. I would enjoy hearing a more thorough explanation of this statement as well.

kiradademon Says:

May 17, 2009 - i personally belive that everyone is entighteled to there own opinions if your right and he's wrong FINE! i think he's excepted the fact that if he's wrong he goes to hell and burns if he's right...NOTHING HAPPENEDS! now you see i am the kind of person that will listen to all sides of religon, science, ect. but i am sick of people pushing there views on others! so if GII wants to say something... LET HIM SAY IT! i am sick of you people giving science and religon a bad name GOOD DAY TO YOU!

littletanbear Says:

May 20, 2009 - LOL Uk Are you drunk Sir? your response

ukchristian28 Says:

May 20, 2009 - At the moment I can't afford to buy anything to get drunk on:).

littletanbear Says:

May 21, 2009 - hahahaha you are so funny...I just smile and laugh when people make different ( rude, I would rather reword for the sake of the innocents LOL ) comments...I believe I understand what they are coming from and who can blame them for doing so, we grew up with different opinions and beliefs, we cannot make this whole world agree to one thinking. I kind of just like listen to them..

megamanium Says:

Jun 9, 2009 - wow, using the contradicting bible to create a loophole in any argument. Too bad it's all circular reasoning.

ukchristian28 Says:

Sep 6, 2009 - I didn't notice this comment before. I already explained in the video that we cannot fully comphrehend how man's responsibility and God's sovereignty work together. The Bible is very clear that both are true however. We make choices in that we act upon our desires. We do want we want to do.

ukchristian28 Says:

Sep 6, 2009 - God's will and man's? I already explained that as well. God's intentions in bringing about that evil in the world are righteous, because He has a good plan and intention for it. People in committing sin however have evil intentions. They are concerned with fulfilling their own sinful desires, not serving the purposes of God. God judges the intentions of people's hearts.

hgryphon Says:

Sep 6, 2009 - Hang on, you can't have it both ways here. If god knows every moment of the past, present, or future, that means he knows everything you are going to do (or "choose" to do). Or if you have free will, god can be "surprised" by your actions. Which is it? And actually, the bible is very clear that god does NOT know every moment of every day, and is regularly surprised by things people do. So much for omnipresence and omniscience.