La Société du spectacle - Society of the Spectacle - 1/9

draikentz Says:

Jun 14, 2008 - This is garbage, dribble. Its a jumbled up unintelligible mess, a confused copy of ideas taken directly from the already confusing and absurd Hegel. The spectacle social is the spectacle, which is a substantial manifestation of its will to confusion.

skonerr Says:

Jul 8, 2008 - I m not sure. Debord are less stupid. But "dans le monde réellement renversé, le vrai est un moment du faux".

palestine0anarchy Says:

Aug 8, 2008 - after 5:50 it becomes really interesting...

ariekanibalie Says:

Aug 15, 2008 - Really? (no pun intended). Why do you say that? Seems to me like Debord's notion of social relations being mediated by images is more true now, in the myspace/facebook era, than ever before. One could argue Debord has become irrelevant, because the spectacle (or what Baudrillard terms the 3rd order of simulacra, simulations etc.) has all but outrun the social real. Today's general passivity is unsurpassed, and I don't see it changing unless somewhow all control systems suddenly self-destruct.

tobybenedetto Says:

Aug 15, 2008 - The waning of the United States as the world's only superpower and the shift in economic power from west to east is forcing people to sit up and take notice, forcing us from our drug and television induced sleep. This is compounded by local economic problems forcing the individual to administer closer control over the minutae of their lives. On top of this we are being forced into action as a species to defend ourselves from the effects of climate change. Our time is now.

jaironia Says:

Sep 17, 2008 - Absolutely agree with you. Debord's arguments are more than valid today than ever before. A single example of that: Reality shows.

riovuaeb Says:

Sep 24, 2008 - I am in total agreement as well. However, a central problem of Debord - and post-marxist theory in general - is that he presupposes that there will be an authentic proletariat "call to action" once the blindfold has been lifted. Maybe the spectacle is all there is, and despite its turning falsity into truth, there lies nothing behind it. It's a little naive, i think, to assume an 'authentic' truth underlying the spectacle itself.

tobybenedetto Says:

Oct 26, 2008 - I think the subject demands a more thorough and detailed interpretation that is discursive rather than being so cheaply reductionist.

tobybenedetto Says:

Oct 26, 2008 - I am lying.

tobybenedetto Says:

Oct 26, 2008 - I am lying.

bohemiastudios Says:

Jan 12, 2009 - Not many people, sit and watch this.

kurdaghasul Says:

Feb 8, 2009 - well they should, don't agree with it just know it (food for thought) most of my friends don't know who Duchamp is! and why should they, they are praised and valued ony trough their ability to assess risk from doctors to accountants! lol i mean why know guy debord or zizek when you can have Paris Hilton! replace imagination with money is our new agenda.

polaroideye Says:

Mar 4, 2009 - You're 100% right there, this is so relevant and I hope action will happen now.

frogsylitious07 Says:

May 13, 2009 - I have scarcely begun to make you understand that I dont intend to play the game.

taffboy72 Says:

May 22, 2009 - Someone should re-do it in English for the new century.

Euroflounder Says:

Jun 23, 2009 - Does anyone else find it odd that he copyrighted this film?

Communitis Says:

Jun 24, 2009 - Probably done to prevent the misuse or abuse of his film for capitalist interest or profit, or worse, to be recuperated to suit counter-revolutionary ends.

Communitis Says:

Jun 24, 2009 - The following year after La Société du Spectacle hit the shelves in 1967, wikipedia . org/wiki/May_68 happened, in which L'Internationale situationniste played an immensely influential role. The first wildcat general strike in history, May '68 conclusively demonstrated the prowess and historical proponderance of working class struggle. Such struggles which persist in our world since then. I think the conclusions of genuine Marxists, including Debord, are pretty well founded upon this fact.

Euroflounder Says:

Jun 27, 2009 - I guess that makes sense, just like people do anti-copyright now, which is legally the same as copyright, but they only enforce it is it's used by people they don't agree with.

LovexandxRage Says:

Jul 1, 2009 - Would it be fucked up if someone were to detourn Debord's work into something pro-capitalist?

faceman501 Says:

Jul 4, 2009 - That thing taffboy said is very important, though. Not dub it, but to redo it, to update it, to remake it (or make a new one altogether under the same spirit, i mean, we have Zizek now, Bauman... Michael Moore, hahaha). Many are doing similar things these days, from Weapons of Mass Deception, the Pinky Show and that Zizec documentary, to LaChapelle and Radiohead, but there is still some merit to be given to whoever manages to bring it all together, kind-of...

Euroflounder Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - Wouldn't that be recuperation,not détournement?

LovexandxRage Says:

Aug 8, 2009 - Euroflounder- I guess you're right. I guess I never thought of recuperation in that perspective. I always looked at it as turning something subversive into mainstream commodity. It totally can work both ways though. Thanks for bringing that up

mekanopsis1 Says:

Aug 25, 2009 - hurr

SexyyBienchen91 Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - will ja nicht nerven aber bin einsam wer hat lust zu quatschen