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jlane4512 Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - As a candidate for President of the U. S., Norman Thomas said, in a 1944 epoch speech: The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. O how true that is ... ;)

Sorasen Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - I have a question for you, where are you from? I have never actually heard anyone use the word stuart like that, and looking it up in dictionaries I find most people do not. Normally it would be student, no?

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - Do you want a narly mind. So, you want to expand your vocabulary? Try "fait accompli"

Sorasen Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - And what might I ask you is this fact? By the way "Stuart of economics" on google, no results at all. Fact is no one ever says that. Further off narly also isn't a word. Unless you're attempting to use the slang term "gnarly." So since you claim to be a scholar I want to ask you a bit. Where do you personally draw the lines bringing capitalist and socialist? US after all has free school already, after all.

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - Try taking an English comp class. Don't abridge your vocabulary. When did I say that I was a scholar? U.S.A. doesn't have "free" school. You pay for public education. You render payment through city and state taxes. Individual taxpayers in NC pay on average $3,663 per capita in city and state taxes. If you want to exploit the inequalities of economic wealth, move to Russia or China ;) We have a mixed enterprise economy or "mixed economy". We don't have a laissez-faire, google it ;)

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - Norman Thomas, socialist presidential candidate... The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened..

Sorasen Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - You know I find you very unusual. I know USA is a mixed economy, I never claimed it wasn't. You're right, free school was oversimplifying the issue, but I never once claimed USA was laissez-faire. recently you claimed ahermit said North Korea was a democracy when indeed he never said that. You're very good at not actually addressing anything anyone says, it's fascinating how you avoid the issues.

ahermit Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - What is a "good stuart of history?" do you mean Bonnie Prince Charlie? You say "Hitler was a socialist a darwinist." but in fact Hitler despised Marxism, and the "science" of the Nazis was built around the work of Houston Stewart Chamberlain, who rejected evolution and called Darwinism "abominable" and "misguided". Get someone to help you look him up...and then think twice before making such sweeping pronouncements on a subject you clearly know nothing about.

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Hitler was a socialist. You're just in denial. Try taking a class in European history as I have and you can learn something. You repeat the same rhetoric and it's very clear you have an abridged knowledge on post ww1. Hitler nationalized the banks and factories. Socialists advocate comeplete nationalisation of the means of production. nationalisation, is the act of taking an industry or assets into the public ownership of a national gov. Live in denial all you want. Hitler was a socialists

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - It's fascinating that you think public education is free ;) I'm sure you think healthcare is free too, right ;) yes, ahmerit did say that north Korea's "government" is a democracy. Their "government" is a communist state with a dictatorship. There is very little difference between socialism and communism. Both abolish private property.

ahermit Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Hitler did not nationalize industry or the banks. In fact he famously said that it wasn't necessary to do so once the people were sufficiently infused with patriotic feeling. You must not have been paying very close attention in those courses you say you took...

Sorasen Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I've tried logically speaking with you, but all you can do is state "I took a class" and then fail to address the questions asked. You once claimed that I needed to take English courses. Well believe it or not, I did the research. Turns out on the entirety of the Internet you're the only one who spells stuart this way. Same with narly. Later on you place quotations arount government when it's unneeded. Finally, your final sentence, "Hitler was a socialists."

Sorasen Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - You clearly are trying to use grammar far beyond your level of comprehension, and the same could be said about your views on politics and history. I admit I made a mistake when saying public school is free; however, it is made available to people who cannot pay those taxes for it. By the way, democracy is not an economic system like communism. Claiming a place is communistic doesn't necessarily claim it is a totalitarian dictatorship. Now how can I make sure you get this? Oh yes. " ;) "

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - When did I say that democracy is an economic system? Are you un-able to comprehend what you read? I said "capitalism, socialism, and communism" are the 3 major economic system. We have a "mixed enterprise". North Korea is a communist state.

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Sorasen quote, "Later on you place quotations arount government when it's unneeded". Need I say more? ;) It's o k, "free" healthcare is on the way. ;)

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I think it's you, that's trying to use grammar far beyond your comprehension level ;) What is "arount" by the way? I wasn't able to find it in the dictionary. Lol

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Hitler nationalised the banks. That is a fact ;) It's apparent that you know more than my teacher who has his phd in history. Just curious, do you have a phd? You must contact my university professor and the publishers of my history book. Let them know they are wrong. I'm sure they would be pleased to hear from a delightful historian such as yourself :) I'm sure wikipedia and yahoo answers have made you the well knowledgeable person that you are ;)

ahermit Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Actually Hitler formally privatized the banks...yes the State still had a lot of control over them, but that was already the case before Hitler came along. Truth is the interests of the business con\mmunity in Germany at the time dovetailed with the Nationalist program of Hitler; he didn't have to take control; they willingly allied themselves with the Nazis. Given your inability to read even a simple comment with comprehension I'm skeptical that your textbook says what you think it does.

ahermit Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Here's a comment from Dresdner Banks own recent study of it's wartime history (Dresdner financed the Nazis and even owned the construction company that built Auschwitz): "There was no exit option against the control mechanisms of the Nazi dictatorship," the study concludes. "However, there was substantial room to maneuver in the degree of cooperation.... No company was forced to actively take part in the robbery of Jewish property." Read Hersch Fischler on the role of business and the Nazis

f8fellshort Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I wish debate on youtube were more legitimate -.-

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I'll put it like this, in no time the USA will no longer be a superpower :)

ahermit Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

jlane4512 Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened. -Norman Thomas

MayonR Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - The Republican/Democrat paradigm is designed to make you think you have a choice

mavrek47 Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - It's great knowing the RepubliCON Party is totally IRRELEVANT in National Govt Today. GOP followers can be seen wearing HUGE bandages on their chins these days due to ALL the excessive "tea-bagging" they've done lately