ATHEIST!!!!!!!

digitised Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - Most atheists are open to being presented evidence for god. If the evidence was ever highly certain then atheists would have no reason to reject it outright, nor accept it absolutely and unquestioningly. A rational mind would accept it as 99% or so likely, since our senses and judgements are not completely trustworthy. We could be tricked by higher intelligences for example. I dont think you truly understand skepticism, you are preaching that we are closed minded when we are fully open.

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - digitised its funny how you contradict yourself "Atheists do not know if any god or gods exist." "Agnostic means not knowing." haha and you can be agnostic and be religious or be atheist! there are atheists that are completly against or deny all divine supernatural beings too so you can not say all atheists are agnostic! some want proof that can be seen with their own eyes or some kinda miracle :S then they say "see there is no god" some peopel are ignorant :(

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - me5o i can agree on that most atheists are agnostic but if like you interprett "atheism" that way its ok cause then you dont interpret it literaly! :) and there are many interpretations in that case. you seem be a good scientist ;) but even you should know that if you want the truth you need to find it yourself not to let others find it for you. religion is about ethics afterall it means "to bind" not to divide it should NOT be concidered against science.

digitised Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - I didnt contradict myself. You are completely failing to understand what atheism is, you are pushing your own definition and ignoring what other people here are telling you. Atheists are people that ARE NOT THEISTIC. Why do you keep saying atheism means denial of god? I dont know if there is/are god/s, hence im agnostic. But i do not believe in any gods which makes me an atheist. Is that clear enough to understand for you?

digitised Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - Okay you have just said - "i can agree on that most atheists are agnostic " But your previous statement directed at me was - "Agnosticism is about not knowing whether god exists or not! Atheism is to deny all gods" So what are atheists, agnostics or denialists? Contradiction perhaps?

digitised Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - ''you can be agnostic and be religious or be atheist'' So again you are saying the two are mutually exclusive positions (which they arent as i have explained), as well as saying that agnosticism is a religious stance...(realllly???) Agnosticism means you dont know, how can you be religious about something you dont know? How can that be so?

sharpshootermatthew Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - KNOW GOD!

DriveTheNailsDeeper Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - i cum in bitches

1720andrew1720 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Atheists dont believe in a god which is different from saing that a god does not exist. In truth atheists just dont know and agnostics hope that there is somthing out there and religous people claim to know. No atheist worth his salt will say i know that god does not eist since religons make it so that it is impossible to prove the inexistance of god by removing all tests to prove his existance

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - My definition of atheism is definitely "literal".You see, theism=belief in god/s Now,when you add the a-prefix,it means LACK of theism, lack of belief in gods. If you don't believe proposition X,that doesn't necessarily mean you believe the opposite of X. How ironic then that religion is probably the most DIVISIVE force in the world. Finding truth for"yourself"is a bad idea.You shouldn't let subjective emotions and desires affect your evaluation of reality. Facts and evidence is the answer.

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - the "A" prefix means "not/no" in greek. so when you dont believe in god you also have a lack of belief me5o. sure emotions shouldnt get involve in such things cause they make things irrational but it doesnt mean you are suppose to just accept everything they say. you have to be a little skeptic ask why? understand how, not just follow everyone else or act rebelious to look cool, many do that and i do not like it atheists dont believe, agnostics dont know and hope there is a god.

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - digitised there is a difference between "most" and "all" you are claiming that all atheist dont know about gods existence(also being agnostic). im saying that not all atheists are agnostic that is why they call god a fairytale figure but just because youre a agnostic doesnt mean all atheists are agnostic too! you found the only place where i was a bit extreme but still ty. and i dont know whats the point of giving a god a chanse of existence? (i am talking about being agnostic)

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - "when you don't believe you also have a lack of belief" -no shit,Sherlock. The bottom line is,EVERYONE either believes or doesn't.Even self-proclaimed agnostics. The TWO options are exhaustive and mutually exclusive. I don't disbelieve to be cool.I disbelieve because there's no good reason to believe in gods.Not Zeus,not Allah,not your God. If anyone is to be blamed for believing in things FOR THE WRONG REASONS,it's you theists.Comfort isn't a good reason to me.I prefer not deceiving myself.

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Btw even though most atheists are agnostics with regard to some gods,this doesn't mean they're agnostic about all of them. The problem is that we have to remain agnostic because usually God is so poorly defined by theists. For example,I'm not agnostic about the God of the Bible.I KNOW that God doesn't exist. But the common God-of-the-gaps who provides zero evidence ...well,I'm agnostic. Then again,I'm agnostic about unicorns as well...

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - i am not a theist i am just skeptic about everything right now about atheism. i know since history tends to repeat itself you atheists will do as much damage to humanity as the fundomentalists did. one more thing my point was if you dont believe in god then you deny him so you cant say that "atheists dont 'know' if god exists" :S its not so rediculious after all, calling me things wont make your claims more correct or even using caps xD

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - you only see god as a supernatural being a mythical creature but i like to see him as an illussion, yes an illssion of perfection so simply looking for perfection is what science is looking for (such having everything explained or having all questions answered) it demands to be open-minded to reach that point (and i try my best)so here is my view of god he/she/it simply doesnt give me any comfort! you need be more open minded :) no offence

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Sorry,non-belief doesn't equal denial. If I don't believe there's a firetruck outside my house,that doesn't mean I'm saying there definitely is no firetruck there.I just have no reason to believe there is.Please wrap your"skeptical"mind around this distinction already.Can't be that difficult.*sigh* I am perfectly open-minded,thank you. There's no dogma controlling my beliefs.I view all claims equally and simply demand evidence before I accept them.That's being open-minded.

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Also, if you aren't a theist, Saber, then BY DEFINITION you are an atheist. There are only two options. So get off that fence, Mr. Skeptic. Goddamnit, this is like debating with a 2nd grader.

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - i'd like to answer that question for myself (whether i am atheist or not) and im still looking.

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - im sorry its impossible to debate things with an egoist hater like you! you certaintly do give yourself alot of titles whatever this is THE END

StupidsHunter09 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Haha! this video is excellent!

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - "Wah, I don't have real arguments therefore you're a big meanie and I'm leaving!" Doesn't matter whether you're "still looking", you're a theist or an atheist regardless. Don't like that? Too bad. Boo friggin' hoo.

Saber10inch Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - you dont even have arguements! there is no us and them youre talking just like the pope when he said youre either with us or youre with satan!!! "get off that fence!"? maybe i want to sit on the fence cause i get a better view on the whole matter you just want to look cool and with this ganster atittude of yours its meaning of life we're talking about its not 2+2 there is a dogma controlling your beliefs and i just found it

me5o Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Just more assertions... I'm this and that because Saber says so. Sure. The point is, there is no fence. You're one or the other, by definition. Deal with it. Are you a nonbeliever(rationalist) or a believer(irrationalist)? You should also work on your grammar. Misspelling words in every reply has a negative effect on your already poor credibility.

mikkodude Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - An excellent video! Truly the type of judging I get every once in a while!