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ajayg514 Says:

Nov 16, 2009 - google - search themusicage

shinoforever Says:

Nov 16, 2009 - who watches the watchmen....love it

armrpeercing Says:

Nov 17, 2009 - God loves you so much that he sent his son Jesus Christ to die for your sins, he was buried, and he was raised from the dead! Please trust him and be saved from judgment. Its totally free, just put your faith(trust) in that good news and God WILL change your life! Its great to be saved, please think about it. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3 :16

fleemanson Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - no you cant this mans got a point. Youtube is becoming corrupt, and its a shame it used to be a good site.

fleemanson Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - we need a youtube revolution!

doherty366 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - thunderfoot, youre spot on,iam a photogragher and its getting stupid with what i can take photos of , even police officers say ,NO PHOTOS OR YOURE UNDER ARREST UNDER SECTION 44 TERRORISM ACT , we need to watch the watchers , you tube is becoming an arm of big brother. but be carefull my friend , they are watching.

beakerbeatz Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - I just went to youtube vs the users and it said that the protest is now over, and that youtube reinstated the video... if this is true, then well done...

wildmanchris200 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - You Tube is "screw tune", they say "Screw free speech, we're motherfucking POLITICALLY CORRECT, goddammit!" Shit....

pierarronax Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - Well gee wizz, as long as you're certain.

Protagonist Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I am. Internet fortunes change all the time. If they turn you-tube into something we dont want to be a part of we'll leave and go to one of their competitors. It's that simple!

hattrickpete Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I am getting really feb up with my new channel lay out - vids take ages to upload etc etc - im quite close to not adding new content again.

ffcloud321 Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - I don't believe You-tube is really after political power, but I do agree that we should keep an eye on them. They need a competitor that they can't buy out. WTF has Yahoo been doing, cutting themselves. Why don't they try to keep up. They haven't changed in 15 years.... They need a You-tube of their own.

NordicAspect Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - Without us there wouldn't be a Youtube...

WlatPziupp Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - @ffcloud321 Google bought Youtube, and I think I heard somewhere that they bought Yahoo also... Because of the precious free market every major website will soon be owned by Google or some other assholes, then there will be a monopoly. Which just so happens to be what right-wing people say is the result of socialism... bullshit of course. But back to the point: Youtube deletes things they don't like and recomends videos that support their own views

Killerz34 Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - This guy is great ^^

geezzerboy Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - Yo Dude, You-Tube is FREE. They can do what they want.

XxnegociatorxX Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - What competitors??

Protagonist Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - @XxnegociatorxX Megavideo is one, Veoh is another. There's a few.

davidw121314 Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - Yep Orwellian, run by faceless unaccountable people.

futboleddy Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - 2:04- 2:06 "you don't have to think long or hard" that's what she said, sorry if that seemed immature

CDubSD Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - Is this thunderf00t retarded or just misinformed? YouTube isn't our government. It's a private business, which has every right to regulate what is put on the site. I can almost guarantee that there is something written about this in the Terms of Service. There is no free speech right to say whatever you want on YouTube.

ZealousMarshmallow Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - He knows its a private business with the right to do what they want with their website, but hes saying its neither in their own intrest nor their users intrests to heavily censor videos.

EconomicImperialist Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - The illusion that YouTube has a monopoly on the online video market is what gives it so much leverage, and I'm afraid that when you make videos like this you are only strengthening this illusion. If you don't like YouTube, use MetaCafe, DailyMotion, or one of the many other video websites available. To say that YouTube has a monopoly and therefore needs regulation is absurd and would introduce new problems. Just use the video website that serves you best. The free market never fails.

Bradtomshore Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - retard the free market is fail. Im sorry but if you want something heard by mainstream youtube is it. If you want people who aren't main stream and dont already really need to know this stuff then because they already do. THAT's why they arent on youtube. You probably dont understand target audience's and fuck your economic system it just breeds corruption.

EconomicImperialist Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - @Bradtomshore The fact of the matter is YouTube is the most popular video website because it is considered by society to be the best. If society considered a different website to be a better video website than YouTube, then it would naturally become more popular than YouTube. Nothing generates wealth more efficiently than the free market.

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Added: Oct 17, 2009 By: Thunderf00t

Duration: 10:55

Channel: News

Some time ago I instigated an action against youtube by releasing the videos called Youtube versus the Users Part 1, 2 and 3. The videos all got 10s of thousands of hits and were mirrored by those who supported the cause hundreds of times. Now if you type the exact title into the youtube search engine, I get nothing at all. I have talked to people all over the world and this is about what 50 % of the people find. This is a pretty Orwellian re-write of history, and there is only one appropriate action that anyone who desires to protect free speech could engage in, and thats to call bullshit on youtube. However this pattern is something that is of wider concern. Youtube has effectively a monopoly on the user based video market. The fact that they are willing to manipulate that system to their advantage opens essentially establishes this as a source of corruption waiting to emerge. Some form of oversight is required. As users, one mechanism by which you can apply pressure on youtube is by videos such as this. In essence keeping youtube on its toes by ensuring that they realize that there are many vigilant eyes on them, who will cause a public relations disaster for them if they are willing to bastardize the fair and level playing field for their financial gain. I think it very likely that youtubes beta channels also border on market abuse. They have taken a user base that was built up on essentially viral dendritic navigation and morphed it into something that looks very much like a commercial video distribution network. Now thats not so bad in itself, but to say that it was done for the users benefit is of course bullshit- dont spit on my cupcake and tell me its frosting!. Similarly actions like these simply do not gel well with corporate slogans like dont be evil. Indeed, if anything this fills me with concern over the lack of accountability and power of organization such as google. To a very large degree, if google wipes anything you create from its search engines, then that information effectively cannot be found, and effectively doesnt exist anymore. The information age is here. To an extent we already live in 1984. Someone has to control the search engines, and the access to data. However to have corporate monopolies with little or no accountability is clearly a very dangerous path to tread.

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