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1n354a Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - no it keeps them in the realm of facts, but everybody knows that facts can be right or wrong. generally, when somebody makes a point of calling things a fact over and over again, it is an indication that what they are claiming is complete crap.

Zeromus7 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - That's what they all say. You say we're judging FOX by O'Reilly, you are defending them by Shep Smith. Cherry-pick wherever you like. There are DAYS worth of material that supports their bias. Every FOX loyalist buys the fair and balanced gimmick, looks like you have too.

Zeromus7 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - And what do you know?

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - no one thinks FOX is fair and balanced just like they don't believe MSNBC is the place for politics. It's the place for playing politics. Obama gets praise every day. One station dosn't and then all this whine whine whine. Glenn Beck is not taken that seriously. He is a conspiracy theorist. And this guy is hiding that he has a liberal bias. Watch MSNBC any evening of the week and you see the same stuff only left. thats what I know.

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - yeah these guys are real objective. big bad FOX. No mention of the left wing whore MSNBC. if they had made the point about both networks, I would give them kudos. But all they show a real informed person is they are another arm of the left trying to find a new attack angle on FOX. real objective news here. YEAH! well won't bother tuning in. will look for a real objective news sight if one exists anymore

stanmarsh071980 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - who said I was a FOX loyalist? I know perfectly well, that FOX is as biased as MSNBC is. The only difference between the two networks (besides dem and repub difference) is that FOX put "fair and balanced" as there slogan.....I know it's not true at all. I never said it was, I just said Shep is pretty fair. They find dirt on Obama just as much as MSNBC did with Bush. That's there game. One is Coke the other is Pepsi.

stanmarsh071980 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - and yeah, right now I'm leaning more republican because I hate Obama and so I watch FOX more. But I hated Bush too, and watched MSNBC more back then.

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - well you know stan you can watch MSNBC and here about let's see uh Sarah Palin, George Bush, um things that happened in 08. Joe Wilson Still. He was a story the other night. Really current news going on there. Yeah that's a good use of time. Look I gave them many chances. They arn't relevant there. They rip on Glenn Beck on the worse worser and worst section. They talk about Bush making speeches and try to put down the company that asked him to do it. It's like a Junior college network there.

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - these guys want to give you a hard time about FOX, have they watched MSNBC. Heck I'm honestly embarrassed for MSNBC. I feel emabarrassed to watch them. FOX is biased for sure. IF you watch their commercials, many are about conservative businesses. I don't think FOX hides it. They do put people on to debate them. Beck dosn't but Beck is not news and he has admitted that. He is a commentator. I don't watch him personally.

uberjim83 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - Except that when MSNBC found dirt, there was actual dirt there. They didn't have to make shit up.

uberjim83 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - Try fark, it has fairly little bias and when it does have one it lets you know what it is (in their political section it has a little meter showing which wing the news stories tend to lean towards that day). And if MSNBC is attacking Fox, that's perfectly fine with me. Nobody could report on Fox in an honest way without it coming off as an attack.

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - my main issue with MSNBC is all the reporting is done poorly. Maybe some half way decent stuff during mid day

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - i think that we can both agree that Beck is giving his opinion. He does not have a research group looking into the matters he commentates on. That's why I only watched him a couple of times. Decided it was just a daily rant. He was better on CNN because then he at least had some research involved. Not sure why he is on FOX news payroll. My guess is it's all for ratings. One thing FOX can get right is that Obama has been screwing up this year. They exagerate it though

stanmarsh071980 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - Actually they both bend stories. You just relate to MSNBC's politics more, so you favor their dirt more than FOX's.

stanmarsh071980 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - Beck isn't news though, he's just a talk show. That's like calling The View "news".

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - well beck has admitted he is not news. I don't think he says it as a disclaimer before every program. I agree he rants mainly. I have a particular dislike of Keith Olberman's style. I find he tries to make a point and really has to reach sometimes to get their and then the punch line is usually a rip on a vauge right wing person. Maddow admits she is biased from time to time and Chris Mattehws leavs at details to favor his stories sometimes

kevinmmmk Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - I'm sure Cenk was ALL OVER the load of pork Fox News exposed in that "stimulus" package introduced in January or Chuck Schumer saying the American public didn't care about how the government spent their money. However, thank you, I'll be fair and keep a better eye on what Bill and Beck say; I advise that you don't let your news sources go above scrutiny either. Both sides are bent, just in different directions.

8DX Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - @kevinmmmk I seem to get the inkling that only one US news network is bent "to the right". The rest arent ALL leftist (some are libertarian, some just NEWS networks).. but then I'm not American. What is funny is that I'm right-wing to centrist in my own country, but I'd be a democrat in the US. I also think you need more "centrist" politics. Good on Obama for going that way. Also whats with this youtube adding @username to the comment when I click reply? That wasn't there yesterday =)

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - 8DX obama is not a centrist in the US he is showing that he is more of a left wing extremist and it is hurting his pole numbers and his policies. Maybe Internationally he seems centrist but at home he is left wing. More left than any other President in recent history.

uberjim83 Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - I don't watch MSNBC anyway, so I don't suppose it matters. I prefer to read stories on both sides and decide based on which story matches the preponderance of evidence. However, more and more I notice that reality has a liberal bias. Of course, that's in one of the furthest right countries in the world. I'm sure if I lived in a leftist nation, the moderate conservatives would probably make more sense.

8DX Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - Yeah that's right, but you don't really have a "left wing" in the US though.. I mean you do have socialist intellectuals, but they have no political force. I'd call Obama a liberal democrat. And looking at what O. is saying around the healthcare debate, you have to see he's centrist: we have raging socialist-capitalist debates here about healthcare and everything really.. even if Obamacare gets through (or has it) it's NOTHING like the socialist healthcare we have here. Cheers..

pacanime1 Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - Yes I suppose he does seem more centrist. Actually Obama care has not passed yet because it is very expensive. Also the retired will loose funding so it has been stopped for now. The other reason for his low poll numbers is the deficit budget. Most people believe that is causing the unemployment rate to stay stagnet. I think a lot of people are beginning to believe Hillary should have won the democratic nomination. She is what would be considered more centrist. Later on. =)

Jew5WreckNations Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - The young turds still slurping obama's cock eh?

7Miks Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - Obviously confused. ABC, NBC, CBS...talk about journalism malpractice. Fox news at least does a little research, and you know they have a slant, because they admit who they are. The others...hmmm, wonder why their ratings and viewship suck? Try the truth yourself sometimes, it will set you free.

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