Thunderf00t vs Ray Comfort, Robots Cute puppies

dragonofthedarknight Says:

Aug 2, 2009 - I agree. To tell you the truth, I respect more a person who says that they do not know than a person who makes up elaborate shit to explain whatever it is they don't know. It makes me feel as if the person is more mature and intellectual as well. It is better to say you do not know that to claim you do, when you do not. After all, even in the Christian belief, there is no mention of what happened before the Universe and the creation. Ray Comfort wouldn't be able to answer the question as well.

dragonofthedarknight Says:

Aug 2, 2009 - But that is not a total turn off is it? I know how TF feels with that. I can draw really great, but if someone is in front of me watching me, and my every move, I freak out and can't draw shit. You can't blame him for losing his guts in that situation.

dragonofthedarknight Says:

Aug 2, 2009 - I wasn't disappointed. I was impressed. He spoke truthfully and honestly. There was no bullcrap with TF in that debate. I suppose I have a strange take on things, but I don't mind stuttering, and I don't mind tripping over words. It means the person has a lot on their mind, many ideas, and is not sure how to express them all. I have that problem. Add my horrible slavic accent and people don't know what the hell I'm saying. But it doesn't lessen the greatness of his words.

chestbuster1987 Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - I liked this. Seemed very objective. But I didn't really understand the "the magic in all life" part or the fact that it sometimes "fills us".

army103 Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - Stating that atheists were disappointed in "their YouTube god" is unfair. Thunderf00t - a man who spends his free time making videos designed to showcase the foolishness of creationists - went out of his way to publicly call one of the most notorious creationists out, and deliberately drummed up a lot of buzz about it. Naturally, those of us who had seen his previous videos had certain expectations, and many of us don't feel that his display lived up to the hype that he himself generated.

Gimmeabreakman Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - Stating that atheists were disappointed in "their YouTube god" is unfair. Naturally, those of us who had seen his previous videos had certain expectations, and many of us don't feel that his display lived up to the hype that he himself generated. --- WHAT!? You just agreed with me!

0okamino Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - I don't think thunderf00t was stumped. I think he just saw when Ray was trying to steer towards one-way dead-end streets and did not waste time with pursuit in those directions. Obviously time was something of a factor since Ray was so anxious to get out of there at the end. I still get a chuckle from Ray falsely crying 'strawman' as a refusal to address a valid hypothetical.

Solubution Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - No, but on the other side everyone knew that already before the interview would happen. Didn't Thunderf00t knew this? And did he achieve what he came for? It was very predictable and I didn't get past watching the first 3 videos and the last one. I think that there are a lot of people less intelligent and with less scientific or religious knowledge that could've done better.

army103 Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - I agree that we had expectations that were not met. The "Youtube god" comment was still inaccurate - it's not that Thunderf00t was the god we fawned over, faithfully waiting for him to vanquish evil. He markets himself as a creationist-buster, made a public challenge to a popular creationist and encouraged everyone to watch. Given the way he hyped up the event his history, having a few expectations was reasonable. Even metaphorically, this is not a case of worshipers turning on their god.

sonoflipoic Says:

Aug 3, 2009 - TF clearly won.He drove RC into admitting that his beliefs are baseless and that he had no understanding of evolution.His shrinking body language in response to the explanation that speciation [is] evolution said it all.

frozensage Says:

Aug 4, 2009 - all i wanted to see from the discussion is some type of advancement in this long debate

psandbergnz Says:

Aug 9, 2009 - I think Thunderfoot did rather well. The sound system could have been better, which made the debate at times tiresome. What we need is an atheist theologian (and there are plenty of these) debating Ray Comfort, to challenge the claim that the Bible is a particularly moral book - it isn't! Thunderfoot was right to accept there are unknowns in science. I don't think Ray Comfort ever "stomped" him!

Doctrinius Says:

Aug 9, 2009 - No, he didn't agree with you. You intentionally pick condescending language to try to make people seem like hypocrites for expecting more out of Thunderfoot than they got. If people expected perfection, then those people are indeed morons. However, I think most people just expected a more interesting debate. It was a bit tame, especially when we take into consideration the amount of knowledge TF possesses. Also, Yahweh would make a pretty shitty human; not a perfect one.

Gimmeabreakman Says:

Aug 9, 2009 - Funny how people can't seem to understand that their opinions are not TRUTH.

Doctrinius Says:

Aug 9, 2009 - I don't understand what you're referring to here. Could you specify what it is you mean? I'm not being facetious, I honestly don't have a clue what you mean.

Glacies12 Says:

Aug 10, 2009 - You look alot like the main guy from the Godzilla movie.

Glacies12 Says:

Aug 10, 2009 - He did well. Personally he should have added the banana in somewhere.

crzer07 Says:

Aug 13, 2009 - Good stuff. You should also do videos where you delve into subjects like God, religion, science and politics or make another channel specifically for those.

novanine Says:

Aug 19, 2009 - I must say Victor, you are on fine form lately. I love how your interest is piqued by such things. You discuss them well. Thanks for the links.

novanine Says:

Aug 19, 2009 - Never mind him, I miss you every day!

kleykenb Says:

Sep 8, 2009 - Mind you, if trying to change people's mind is hypocritical and stupid then Jesus must have been the biggest idiot ever :-)

ivanlagrossemoule Says:

Sep 8, 2009 - What does morality have to do with the debate anyway? It's about who is right, not who is the nicest. If the pope Jean Paul II was the most moral person ever, would it make catholicism the truth? Of course not. It's just a last resort argument because religion is losing on all other points.

Gimmeabreakman Says:

Sep 8, 2009 - I think you misunderstood. Who said anyone should be more moral in the argument? I didn't.

ivanlagrossemoule Says:

Sep 9, 2009 - I was talking about the debate with religion against atheism. Religious people always bring up the morality argument. Didn't really watch the whole vid so maybe I was a bit out of place.

Boxcutter7 Says:

Oct 8, 2009 - gimme a break man