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DeVinE696 Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - players all agree on new maps besides they dont need u to talk for them it was a good game and flash lost becuase bisu harrased makeing flash build late vults there for bisu went dubble nexus.. and in the end his gateways could make 3 to 4 hotkeys of units for 1 wave, if flash didnt lose time on the harras his vults would have found bisu expo but he had none in the end if the harras of bisu failied to delay flash, flash would have 1. flashes build was good and couldnt win to those gates
DeVinE696 Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - wth.. y dose terran need turrets to win vs toss? mines vults tanks vessle and EMP DEF matrix and gollies are good enough plus scan.. its already unfair for toss units to vs the power of terran u dont need turrets shuttle and ect are good counters yes but terran can ez defet that with what i mentioned already most bw players suck at tvp becuase terran is hard to micro it realy is.. but if u think about it the perfect micro rapes 24 dmg to lots and full dmg to goons plus spalsh emp mines and golls
amished037 Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - Without Flash, the stats are 10 Wins and 38 losses for Terran in TvP. Besides, they don't all agree on the map, the map makers put it out, *some* progamers test it, and then it's used anyway. If they all agreed on it, then you wouldn't get maps like Demon's forest or DMZ that have to be removed in the middle of the season. I agree that Bisu played just as well, and some of what he was able to do was helped a lot by the map layout.
qonson Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - medusa is cleary a very hard map for terran, all that space to harass with a reaver..... no buildings in the middle..... no cliffs to drop... just NOTHING it's imba map
qonson Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - i forgot about that it's no risk for toss to fe at the mins only, which gives him an advantage early on
BoywondeR338 Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - its imbalanced in general, flash is like the #1 terran right now do the math
hyhhy Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - I'm not trying to "deny" it. I just think that it's not very meaningful in the case of Flash. And Flash is playing here in this video. That's all I meant.
sbmadnezz Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - QQ cry.
LordAvaran Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - Turrets are useful for slow-pushes, they are cheap, they stay, they scout. How would you spend 100 minerals to get detector + drop defense?
tomlovizar Says:
Mar 26, 2009 - 75 for turrent. :) 100 is in old version. Medusa is favor Protoss so much is not even funny. Terran can't slow push and Protoss can out flank you, out expo you, and take map control!
BiffTheUnderstudy Says:
Mar 26, 2009 - yeps. I think Kespa guys are now trying to reverse the P imba of last year by introducing lot of protoss devafourable maps... and a lot of Z favoured maps.
BiffTheUnderstudy Says:
Mar 26, 2009 - Because turret + mines are what allows terran to gain some map control. No turret means that from the time he has observers, toss will have map control till the end of the game. Plus expos are impossible to defend for ran as entrance are far from each other, the middle is wild open, means you get flanked whatever you do, and you have the most PvT imba map ever.
sonicmerlin Says:
Mar 26, 2009 - This is unrelated to complangc and his ingratitude, but I'm curious what is your native country and language Jon?
sonicmerlin Says:
Mar 26, 2009 - So many "ifs". But he didn't, did he? That seems to indicate Bisu is better.
fiendin281 Says:
Mar 26, 2009 - You seem to be indicating that one game is all it takes to determine who is the more skillful player, choosing to ignore history of past games, the cause of the loss, map balance, and throwing out any and all other factors whatsoever. That seems to indicate that you are an idiot.
DeVinE696 Says:
Mar 27, 2009 - NO u no what its all u pplz neg'n u all have an excuse all the time u lose u lose nothing els stop makeing ecuses plz.. if flash wanted u to say hes better then bisu he only lost because, NO he dosent need it and neither do pplz watching the vod bisu is a good player so is flash so stop makeing excuses
newvenom Says:
Mar 28, 2009 - 모든 동영상을 주셔서 감사합니다! jon you rock man....!
malambot12 Says:
Apr 23, 2009 - who won?
curmosc Says:
Jun 10, 2009 - I could never do this
carlosguzmanc Says:
Jun 22, 2009 - WHAT IS CRROTO???
asoin124 Says:
Jul 4, 2009 - if you got fb, be a fan of bisu there! after fb (dot) com, php#/pages/BisuShield/66383597276
shinbum Says:
Aug 30, 2009 - jon you're the best uploader in this entire youtube corp.
BisuDMan Says:
Sep 3, 2009 - damn what multitasking... very high level of play
JaeChoi94 Says:
Sep 10, 2009 - one heck of a mine bomb



DeVinE696 Says:
Mar 25, 2009 - thats tru flash lost fair ans square and its his first loss on madusa tvp this map is balanced and if players could build turrets then then the map would be imba becuase toss wont have any affect loseing massive armys to tanks and mines ALL IN ALL GG and BISU WAS THE BETTER PLAYER THIS GAME