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ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - do you understand what 'good work' meant in the 1500's. Dude, go read a LOT more history before you come commenting on here - your opinions are really really sad.
1401JSC Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - Even so, Luther, Doctor of Catholic Theology , was appointed to teach Biblical studies at the university of Wittenberg.
1401JSC Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - The sacrements are only inventions of the Church to frame life with a succession of obligations! The justification is that they are based on acts of Christ. Happily, the Church never decided to ask us to observe the sacrement of walking on water to prove our faith. ;p Luther denied the sacrements? Have you a quote en that??
ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - when did Luther deny the cross? The baptism of Jesus? Pentecost? These are all part of Lutheranism. You can even go look up Luther's sermons on Pentecost. I think you are confusing Luther for Zwingli or the Anabaptists maybe? I'm not sure what you are referring to.
1401JSC Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - Scientific method could hardly have existed without scientific studies. The esoteric arts and philosophy (both of which need a large systematic thinking process) preceded natural sciences. If the Church condemned certain scientists, it did not necessarily contest the truth of the scientific observations. Francis Bacon and René Descartes worked in the laying down of scientific proof from within their churches!
1401JSC Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - once and for all LUTHER WS EXCLUDED FRO: THE CHURCH BY EXCOUNICTION
ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - yes this is true - but the scientific method was treated with wild scepticism in the Early modern period. The best example I can think of is in a monograph called "A Poisoned Chalice" by J. Freedman (2002)
ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - it is too hard to sum up the argument here in a small youtube box, but y=if you are at all interested in one example of how the scientific method operated 'on the ground' in early mod Europe, I highly recommend the book.
ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - Luther was excommunicated. Yes. everyone knows. Why does it matter??
1401JSC Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - The Church kicked him out. You have no right to say that he left the church as if it were his primordial choice!
1401JSC Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - "wild"?
ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - Luther could have also prevented his own excommunication - so yes he did have a choice. You're trying to make it sound likethe pope owned his soul or something
1401JSC Says:
Nov 1, 2009 - And you could have been a buddist! I "make it sound" or you want to interpret facts in your own narrow way?
Saccos1 Says:
Nov 7, 2009 - Log onto Youtube to learn more about our traditional Roman Catholic Church Saint Lucy's in Newark, N.J. Search: Fr. Granato or Saint Lucy's Church
ktomasz999 Says:
Nov 12, 2009 - I have attended a Traditional Mass a few times, but I love it. The first time I found it a little difficult to follow along, but not as much as I expected. It's definitely worth going when/if you have the chance... the reverence for God, the beauty of it all -- it's something I've never experienced anywhere else.
thethomasian17 Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - what's the organ piece being played at the beginning of the Mass? pretty please?
bearnurse1 Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - The traditional tridentine rite mass is good to go to on occasion but I much prefer the Novus Ordo mass.
millie1235 Says:
Nov 23, 2009 - I'm glad they changed it. At least now you know they're saying and you can actually participate instead of just sitting there having no idea of what's going on.
millie1235 Says:
Nov 23, 2009 - Who do you think gave order to build these cathederals? The pope. Have you ever been to the Vatican? It's huge and full of gold and expensive artwork. And it's the home of the leaders of the church. Why should a church be full of artwork? Faith is not about these things, so Luther was right when he said that the catholics should not pay so the leaders of the church could prove how mighty they were.
JacobitoGonzales17 Says:
Nov 24, 2009 - We use gold and artwork in our churches to show our love for Christ by giving Him nothing less than the very best we can afford. The Creator of the Universe deserves much more than a bare meeting hall. And the Church leaders need money to live off of just as you and I do. God bless.
JacobitoGonzales17 Says:
Nov 24, 2009 - Catholics are just as capable, if not even more capable of participating in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite. The Lord has a way of speaking to the soul through Latin, which was spoken in the time of Christ, in a way that is really quite awesome. God bless.
JacobitoGonzales17 Says:
Nov 24, 2009 - And just to add, there has never been an "order" or a "command" to build any church, whether it be a cathedral or a small country chapel. Churches are built by the people out of love for God not out of fear of the Holy Father. God bless.
millie1235 Says:
Nov 25, 2009 - which was the language of the people who killed him. I am more touched by his words when I can understand them, then when they may sound nice, but have no meaning to me, like they do in Latin.
millie1235 Says:
Nov 25, 2009 - Of course their has been an order! probably not for small country chruches or chapels. But I know for a fact that catherdrals were always build in order of the leaders of the church. And I don't think that hanging your own house full of gold is a way of showing how much you love God.



ryanwhibbs Says:
Oct 31, 2009 - Sorry that you dont have a clue about theology, but indulgences are bad because they are not mandated by god or the bible - even though the pope said they were. They are a human invention charged with the one thing the churcch was supposed to hate the most: love of money