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purecanesugar420 Says:
Nov 7, 2009 - Anyway, I agree with these policies, but even with those safeguards, I don't think the livelihood of the people should be dependent on the functioning of a large centralized institution. The 4 policies you listed, plus limitations on scope of legislation (ie., the oft ignored US 10th amendment) and possibly some limitation on private enterprise (ie., it is a crime to possess more in assets than 10,000 average citizens) could result in improved social justice.
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 7, 2009 - socialism is not fascist. socialism is a planned nationalised economy controlled at all levels by workers democracy. what u are refering to is called stalinism, or what the global media etc call 'communism'. socialism is the transitional phase between capitalism and communism. the socialist state is the exploited majority suppressing the exploiting minority from counter-revolution
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 7, 2009 - communism is the final stage of society, a society based on super abundance in a classless borderless world where we give according to attributes and receive according to need. for the first time in history humans will be free from the state and free from the drudgery of labour.
saezd Says:
Nov 10, 2009 - Why it is that marxist got always the same speech and cannot give names? Where does social security come from? From riches for the poors.
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 10, 2009 - are u stupid? in class society the ruling class lives off of the surplus produced by the majority. the slaves, serfs and workers all produced the surplus for it to be consumed by a tiny minority, the slave owners, feudal lords and capitalists. most people struggle to pay the bills, they are the lucky ones, others starve while there are a tiny class of parasites running their showers on evian water. if u support that, fine, but i do not.
saezd Says:
Nov 11, 2009 - They starve bercause they haven't a job. Because their economy doesn't work well. How much do you need to win to be part of the minority? How does the capitalist win their money? By investing, without investers we starve.
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 11, 2009 - they haven't a job because capitalism has no jobs for them, they starve because production of food is for profit and mountains of waste that could feed hungry people goes to waste. it is determined by your relations to the means of production, if u own the means of production u are in the minority, if u do not own any means of production and only have your labour to sell to the owners, u are in the majority. capitalists do not win money, it is produced by their workers.
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 11, 2009 - this is a simplified formula for how capitalists get money. u offer to pay a worker 25 a day, the workers accepts the offer. the worker produces his value in wages (25) after only a few hours work. the worker continues to work the full day, producing a surplud beyond his value in wages. by the end of the day the worker has produced 75, the extra 50 is goes into the capitalists pocket. profit is the unpaid labour of the working class. only human labour produces new value.
x24z26 Says:
Nov 12, 2009 - Really? To me it's a really beatiful song. I really love the harps parts and that beat that comes in near the end of the song.
deneinen23 Says:
Nov 12, 2009 - stfu
saezd Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - Unitl a guy who takes only 20 extra come and sell cheaper for crowd pleasure . So capitalists don't do anything for business and economy could run without them?
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - yes we do not need them. under capitalism the economy is controlled privately by capitalists who use it to produce profit for themselves. under socialism the economy is controlled socially and democratically, production is for need not for profit. the possibilities are endless. the incentive is to work less, as technology advances, productivity increases, meaning we will produce what we need in less time, reducing the working day for all until eventually we only need to work a few hrs a week!
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - for SUPER ABUNDANCE the capitalists are a colossal drain and waste on the resources of society. we do not need them.
saezd Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - Do you know that those theories have been tested and failed in the USSR and those countries prefered know capitalism? In socialist countries, only a few will decide for others with democratic disguise. The state are the only invertors allowed. So if you are not in good terms with them, you have no other alternative. Try to study the reality of socialist countries, and you'll see that even if freedom is not perfect, it's better than burocraty.
ixan7418 Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - this song does let me think how the world is in the year 3096
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - u are clearly a moron, talking to me about what u have no knowledge of. what failed in the USSR was not socialism but stalinism bureaucratic control of the planned economy = stalinism workers democracy control of the planned economy = stalinism. under socialism the working class majority decide. all officials are elected and subject to direct recall, meaning they are replaced as soon as the workers decide no official will be paid more than a skilled worker all jobs in the running of the state ..
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - to be rotated among the workers themselves. yes the economy is controlled by the state but under genuine socialism the state is controlled at ALL levels by workers democracy unlike the stalinist regimes in russha, china, cuba etc where the state is controlled by monsterous authoritarian nationalist bureaucracy which has NOTHING to do with genuine socialism. do some reading and get your facts right before u spout your nonsense
saezd Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - So i'm just asking and soon called a moron, like leftist never failed to do. So anarchist? Well that's better and i'm serious. Now we have democracy in business and that sounds good. Now the very interesting question: How do you launch a business? How do you start a business?
marxistsoldier Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - democracy under capitalism is a fig leaf that conceals the dictatoship of big banks and capital. as soon as the workers threaten the power of the capitalists the smiling mask of democracy will be cast to the side and the true face of the capitalist state will be revealed. the politicians elected have no power, the real power is in the hands of the big companies whos decisions affect the lives of millions and they are not elected. they are dictators. i will not rely again because u are stupid
saezd Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - That's what i thought about marxist: violent, no self-criticism, bi-polarised view of reality full of non-real terms like the workers, the people. You're not replying, you're not discussing, just serving the same speech on and on and on, then if someone disagree -- moron, stupid. Now I know why someone once said " We don't need to argue with socialists, just erase then".
illegalsmirf Says:
Nov 15, 2009 - Please everyone mark the stupid political essays below as spam ....
Roflmayonaisseometer Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - spamming deleted. Yay!
princenosiatajansen Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - marxsoldier and saezd.... DO NOT FUCK UP!! pls.... jut listn to this wonderful piece of music.... and when u searche answers to your fucking discussion, just see a interview with aphex twin. he had a kind of an answer... and discussions are sinnless, because we all know, that we are different. ITS NORMAL idiots....
ReferencePoints Says:
Nov 19, 2009 - If I was gonna introduce someone to Aphex..I think this is the track I would choose.



purecanesugar420 Says:
Nov 7, 2009 - What do you think I meant by corporate fascism and the false duality? I am not foolish enough to compare socialism and capitalism as if they are diametrically opposed, or as if only one can be essentially fascist.