Christianity VS Atheism on Youtube 3 - C0ct0pusPrime

Serpent257 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - Who is winning the debate? Christopher Hitchens! That flucker is fearless. Serpent

rod31808 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - Sex evolved for one function, to reproduce, the fact that it's really, really fun is irrelevant. Once the sperm has fertilized the egg it will grow into an adult human being. Every life has value regardless of whether you're religous or not. I am a very rare individual, the anti-abortion atheist. Thanks for thoughts and encouragement, and i will make sure my kids learn to think critically and not just be sheep.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - Who wouldn't cry for their loved ones? God understands that we'll be sad because the reality of not having this person around physically anymore is massive. God helps us cope in different ways such as dreams. God doesn't tell preachers to put down his believers. This is why believers should be very picky with their pastors. I won't sit in a chair and have someone tell me I'm not worthy to live. I don't put a man on a pedastal because he can recite words in common english.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - I think I'm more modern and after all the nonsense that has come from thinking too highly of pastors I don't see them as anything but men or women teaching their interpretations of the bible. No offense but the pope is just a man in a ridiculously large hat. Thankfully I have a pastor that doesn't put people down. He tells stories of his day to day life to show that he's just like everyone else. He tells us that God is love. Thats what I respect, love.

ogjimkenobi Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Well that was really quite beautiful Peach. I respect love as well.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - I see nothing beautiful in it at all. I read the bible end-to-end; it's a horrible book, and the deity created in it is maniacal, baby-killing, sadistic. He creates beings and sets them up for failure by putting fruit in front of them and telling them not to touch it. Any idiot knows that a kid will automatically eat something forbidden in plain reach. And Adam Eve didn't even have knowledge of right and wrong yet! Then this deity curses all their offspring for what they did.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Why yes, the biblical god claims all are tainted with original sin because his own creations were too innocent to know they had to not eat fruit or all their offspring would be cursed. They didn't learn good evil until AFTER eating the fruit. And it is no comfort that this sadistic deity is going to burn all unbelievers forever. You have free will, but you have to use it to do what he says. His continued instructions to kill unbelievers, including their babies is hardly comforting.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Apparently you didn't read it close enough. They were manipulated into eating it. They disobeyed god and he punished them including the serpent. Just like a parent would punish their own kids. They didn't even bother with the fruit until satan came. They were naive and that's how he got them. They knew that it was wrong to eat it so the whole not knowing right from wrong is not true. In fact it was out of love that Adam ate the fruit. Eve would have suffered alone if he hadn't.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Georgia, where does your pastor get his idea that god is love? Have you read the bible end-to-end? The god of the bible is a sadistic, barbaric, baby-killing monster. The only love he shows is to his chosen tribe (believers, Israel, whatever you want to call them). Anyone else is supposed to be killed or tortured. Their are instructions from god to kill homosexuals and disobedient children--and babies and children and cattle of unbelievers. This "love" thing is wishful thinking.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - The concept of free will is that we have the will to enjoy life the way we want unlike angels. We don't have to believe in him but we won't go to heaven. Following him isn't supposed to be a chore. You're supposed to love and trust him, which is all he really wants. That's why he created us in the first place. He doesn't say kill unbelievers. In fact he says it's a sin to kill another person at all! It's religious extremists who think that. He isn't going to burn unbelievers, satan will.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Without gods protection satan will then have control over you. We are tainted because we all have the capabilities to do aweful things. A pure being wouldn't.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Anyone may criticize any beliefs. Telling someone that they are ignorant is telling them they do not have knowledge. Religious persecution is when people have their rights taken away for what they believe. For example, homosexuals who do not believe their personal choice of spouse is bad are prevented from marrying. That is persecution based on religion. People are stupid when they refuse to be educated, like those who say there is no evidence for evolution, when it abounds. That's stupidity.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - I read it very, very closely, since I was a religious person. How can you punish someone who doesn't know good and evil?" They won't know it's wrong to "disobey." That will have no meaning. The fruit gave them knowledge of good and evil. If I were a parent and put a plate of cookies on a table, put my innocent 2-year-old in the room and said "don't eat the cookies" I'd be stupid to think they wouldn't eat the cookies. If I then burned them with cigarettes repeatedly, I'd be a sadist.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - There are no instructions to kill homosexuals. There are instructions to help them see that being gay is wrong. The wrong commited in the bible is because of humans being aweful. He sent jesus to save us and he didn't kill adam and eve to begin with. He isn't sadistic or he would have stopped the problem at the source. The thought of him only being interested in murder and suffereing is just your own misinterpretations.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - How can someone know not to disobey when they don't know good from evil? So they get turned out to live in pain and doom all their offspring forever FOR EATING FRUIT??? Do you have children? If they ever snuck food they were not supposed to eat, did you force them to have pain forever? Did you curse them and their children's children? What kind of loving parent is that? He set Adam Eve up for failure. He told them not to disobey without the ability to understand. He made the serpent.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - That is not the definition of persecution.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - The did know it was wrong because adam hesitated. Like I said they were manipulated. We know the definition of right and wrong and yet we still can be manipulated can we not? And you compare them to children. They were not children, they were adults. They just didn't have impure thoughts like we do. Children can commit wrongful acts as we have seen today. The main difference between a child and an adult beyond the obvious is that they lack self control.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - This is not a regular piece of food! It isn't the same as a child eating a cookie. I'm willing to bet there is more to that fruit than is let on in the bible. He didn't set them up for failure. Had satan never came to them they wouldn't have eaten it. God made the serpent but it was satan who possessed it.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - I don't "believe" in abortion; I wish it weren't necessary that contraception was the norm. That sex is fun hardly seems irrelevant at all. Food has one function--to fuel the body. Yet most of us eat wonderful dishes for their flavors and textures and don't eat the minimum just to fulfill the function of fuel. Eyesight hearing have similar survival functions--to help find food and mates. Yet we enjoy art, books, music, movies--all irrelevant to mere survival or procreation.

laraesque Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Read Leviticus 20:13; it says to put to death any man who lies with a man. Read deuteronomy 21: 18-21 about having your children stoned to death if they are gluttons are drunkards; Deuteronomy 22:22 about killing off anyone who has sex outside of marriage; There are dozes of passages like this are the law of the biblical god.

PatriotIzzy Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Wow. You are lame. Go die in "hell." "God" is not going to save you. Fuck "Jesus." Fuck religion.

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 9, 2009 - Your comment was lame, unoriginal, and unnecessary...

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 9, 2009 - It's a really bad joke considering the fact that christians aren't supposed to put their faith in human beings and then you contradict the first sentence with the last one. At least be consistent lol...

rainbowofhazes Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - If God is omnipotent and omnipresent(besides the assumption that he exists) it means that even before he created Adam and Eve he knew the entire process which would lead to the fall of men. And since he/she knew, and did nothing to stop the event he is guilty as well. (i.e. you know someone is going to commit murder and you don't call the police, you're guilty for not calling the police)

Georgiapeach770 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - we have free will and he hopes that we make the right decisions...adam and eve didn't just up and decide to eat it..they were manipulated and didn't have a strong will..god was aware of this and this is why he didn't decide to just kill them...