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timejiff Says:
Oct 28, 2009 - Michael Shermer is the second leading athiest of this age behind Dawkins. Editer of skepdic magazine.
daveyboy7777 Says:
Oct 28, 2009 - they didn't know the name prior to the event they found out who killed him and then discovered the name in the matrix. even so this type of code can be done with other books not just the bible, it sounds credible in the first book where he bangs on about the unchanging ltters of the torah but in book two he uses other books in the bible basically contradicting the first so its all crap, the fact that hebrew characters represent numbers and letters means you could make it say anything.
daveyboy7777 Says:
Oct 28, 2009 - too true even in his book he points the finger at aliens writing the torah as they are the only beings that would be able to encode it in the first place its all crapolla
AmazingAlbert Says:
Oct 29, 2009 - The 'code' has only just been uncovered so it seems obvious people will want to find evidence now rather than later, so they look to past events to try and prove the code. Otherwise it is like doing a word search in a paper without knowing the words to search for or when the answers will be printed. There's evidence to suggest that it has been used to predict future events; Rabin's murder, Bush winning supreme court case against Al Gore, Obama winning the election before ever being a candidate.
AlRasuwl Says:
Oct 29, 2009 - It's more of a retro-fit than a prediction. When has it predicted a large event which has as a result been avoided? Tsunamis, terrorist attacks, high profile murders....anything?
jamesof23 Says:
Oct 29, 2009 - there is a code in the bible where god states that the moby dick codes are done by his opposition, and inferior to his codes. See for yourself. I'm not tiring to be famous.
bottleslingguy Says:
Nov 2, 2009 - It also says we were genetically altered by aliens and given the language gene. That's in the BCII by Drosnin. That correlates with Lloyd Pye's Intervention Theory.
AmazingAlbert Says:
Nov 3, 2009 - I think Lloyd Pye is doing some amazing research with the Starchild and has some good evidence to enforce his case. I think as Lloyd recognises with the Starchild 'with extraordinary finds you require extra ordinary evidence'. The same applied to the Bible Codes. For me they are fascinating but not concrete evidence.
AmazingAlbert Says:
Nov 3, 2009 - I would say that if someone had foreseen an event but that event was not avoided it would still class as a 'prediction'. I agree that the evidence to suggest that these finds are actual 'Bible Codes' and not merely probable finds is weak at present... but fascinating all the same.
celebritysketches Says:
Nov 3, 2009 - A Bible code finding should sit firmly in the realms of mathematics and be applied with the most stringent of rules. It should withstand the highest levels of scrutiny and there should be no probability of it being found elsewhere. Finding BC in Moby Dick is like finding human DNA in a house brick. The only way this could happen would be if DNA wasn't the unique underlying 'code' of human life but was just an arbitrary in all 'stuff'... but it isn't. DNA is a one off miracle, this BC isn't.
AlRasuwl Says:
Nov 3, 2009 - "still class as a prediction" You are incorrect. If the people perpetrating the action to make the prediction come true are aware of the prediction, then it is no considered a prediction. Einstein's 5h guideline states: If a religion has prophetic events that can be fulfilled by the followers of the prophet (especially after the prophet has died), then it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. By logic alone, such predictions are not prophetic verses. So no, it's not :-)
kB5ka Says:
Nov 5, 2009 - your mom predicted WWII
Jerraph Says:
Nov 5, 2009 - This crap was debunked on a BBC programme a few years ago. Yawn...
2224life Says:
Nov 5, 2009 - well i just sat thru this whole video , and it says that the science is bad at the end and there is nothing to talk about. I already figured that. ((ANY BOOK WILL GIVE YOU A CODE))
Quionic7 Says:
Nov 5, 2009 - They bible also says that there is no such thing as gods (if you take the first letters on a few hundred different pages) :P
faithisfiction Says:
Nov 9, 2009 - "probabilistic" - sure, something like random chance. Nice work with the moby dick example...
AmazingAlbert Says:
Nov 9, 2009 - Sorry. I didn't realise you were being so basic. We all know it's possible to self fulfil prophesies. If I say 'I predict I will have pie for tea in 7 days time' it's in my own power to cook that pie so of course it's not a prophesy. However, this is not the same as we're dealing with here. I think you're on a different thought process to me. I don't believe in 2012 but if it occurs I will eat my hat as it would be a 'prophesy'! Quoting geniuses does mean you're above criticism.
AlRasuwl Says:
Nov 9, 2009 - Hi Albert I don't quote Einstein for credibility, I referred to a system for evaluating prophecies which is generally accepted as a good and impartial one which was created by Einstein. I wasn't talking about "7 days time". If Muhammad makes a prediction that in the year 2010 the Muslims will fight the Jews, it isn't a prophecy if his followers have been training for years in preparation for the battle and that triggers the event because the Jews fear they are going to be attacked.
AmazingAlbert Says:
Nov 10, 2009 - I understand the relevance of Einstein's quote, I only question the ability to make a prophesy based on human fulfilment and human nature in general. I'm not convinced by the bible code findings and I would require greater evidence before I start fearing the predictions. However, I am of the opinion that a prophesy or prediction should not be dismissed because humanity has the power to materialise an event. This should be acknowledge as a factor within context when weighing up possibilities.
meniusg Says:
Nov 13, 2009 - ha ha ha ha
parzit888 Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - izhak rabin was assasinated because he wanted to give the arabs some of our land..(israel) and in bible it said that we shouldnt give our land to anyone for eternity.. same thing happend to our minister.. he wanted to try to give them some of our land and now hes in coma.
Kayvenx3 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - Lol this is retarded.
TaNgLeD2121 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - everyone that believes in the bible are uneducated,..... making choices on the only information they have plain and simple,..... if you could teach the math explaining the atom or the double split expiriment to a creationist that would convert,... but you cant do that because there brain washed to ignore logic
dkw12002 Says:
Nov 21, 2009 - Oh my god! I just decoded the bible, the koran, and The 4 vedas, using my own Nostradamus software. It turns out that if you rewrite all three holy books BACKWARDS, remove every third letter and rearrange them...they make no sense whatsoever. I did find the following words though which mean something, I'm sure: wacawicamomo, gehimnimandize, gogadii, zibarf, wowoz. It's some kind of omen, I fairly sure.



MusicHypno Says:
Oct 27, 2009 - What does Michael Shermer have anything to do with this?