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Dhesyca Says:
Oct 12, 2009 - KingHeathen, I agree with you on most points, although I didn't notice Thunderf00t's stuttering until I saw your video after the fact. However, there was one victory for the video as a whole in the fact that they were civil and even enjoyed each others' company. On a different note, I'd like to recommend that you light the other side of your face and consider lighting your background also. You look half invisible and it's a little distracting from all your good points. :P
KingHeathen Says:
Oct 12, 2009 - I appreciate the input, but I like the lighting. I find it puts the focus on the words, not my appearance, not my furniture, etc. Plus it creates a signature look that makes my videos stand out and (as one subscriber points out) at a glance my subs know when I have a new video in their inbox.
XavierDrake Says:
Oct 13, 2009 - like what? u cant just say it has holes u have to point them out as well
bassbole Says:
Oct 14, 2009 - Hey King, I agree with every point you raised. TF never called Ray out when he said that god did it. However, I see this as a strength instead of a weakness, let me explain. There is no way you are going to convince a man like Ray Comfort that God didn't do it. To entertain that line of discussion is, in my opinion, fruitless. TF's main objective(the way I saw it) was to get the facts on the record, he was resisting playing ray's games... sometimes more sucsessfully than others, ill grant.
Silentartisan207 Says:
Oct 14, 2009 - If that is so then why are laws and theories involved in Biology? Not to mention that other types of Science are used to prove evolution. For instance chemistry and the elements, elements are used to try and prove many parts of evolution. Thus Laws and Theories are used in Biology, otherwise it would just be evolution not the THEORY of evolution like everyone says.
Silentartisan207 Says:
Oct 14, 2009 - For instance the fossil records. There are many missing links that palentolegists haven't found. Not to mention the whole mix up between evolution and simple reproduction that produces recessive and dominant traits. And so on... But I'm not trying to be ignorant or arrogant here, I'm trying to gain a better understanding of things.
KingHeathen Says:
Oct 14, 2009 - chemistry=division of physics. genetics=division of physics. Look it up. Biology...NOT a division of physics. Example, we can count the number of genes we have, but that doesn't make biology part of math. Math uses "proofs"...physics uses "laws"...biology uses "theories"... In the end, it's all the same thing being said different ways. If the theory wasn't proven true, it would be called a "failed hypothesis." Think about it.
KingHeathen Says:
Oct 14, 2009 - which missing link do you think we haven't found?
XavierDrake Says:
Oct 15, 2009 - well first explain which links we are missing? and not everything becomes a fossil
VyckRo Says:
Oct 15, 2009 - Thunderf00t ! is a scientist???
8582Dave Says:
Oct 21, 2009 - I agree with KingHeathen. TF's videos rule but he needs practice if he is going to debate professional speakers.
Chuloloc Says:
Oct 24, 2009 - Interesting, Heathen. I totally agree. Thunderfoot was too easy on Ray. Ray ontherotherhand, is a psychological manipulator. I would want some one with more intensity to engage Ray. Ray will be crying like a baby. As for Ray being a nice guy, that's only a tactic but when is comes to activities like outdoor preaching, the man a is complete douche bag.
TwilightAronXD Says:
Oct 30, 2009 - So many people mentions the suttering, I didn't even think about it before. My biggest problem is that Thunderf00t was too polite xD
brownbigb Says:
Nov 1, 2009 - evolution and genetics are two different animals
ElProximo Says:
Nov 3, 2009 - I haven't seen this debate but brace yourself because I am actually going to agree with you for once in this life... ...generally speaking (regardless of this debate) but as a rule I don't think Ray Comfort makes compelling arguments for Creationist views. Honestly.. a few years ago the entire subject was severely 'dumbed down' by some youtube atheists 'RRS' and Comfort-Cameron engaging in a 'debate'. It was absolutely terrible - both sides. Just awful. But... I will check this debate to be fair
Lasse1583 Says:
Nov 4, 2009 - so your saying you look down on people who stutters..?
KingHeathen Says:
Nov 4, 2009 - if that response is directed towards me, then by all means no and I don't see where you would get that impression if you were actually listening to what I said. The vast majority of what I was talking about dealt with the impression that OTHER people get when they hear someone struggling to get their words out.
theillestgreek Says:
Nov 4, 2009 - I agree
Silentartisan207 Says:
Nov 4, 2009 - Any.
compvm33 Says:
Nov 5, 2009 - so the dude stutters a little-bfd. i thought he did well against someone waiting to spring a canned sermon. backing off from comforts leading questions and traps was a good way to keep on theme.
compvm33 Says:
Nov 5, 2009 - sure, tf needs practice, but he jumped in with both feet taking on comfort. i'm sure ray thought he 'won' though it was only a 'discussion'. if he had one single normal brain cell it would be screaming a warning that a new truth is coming. but doubt he hears it.
rappanuia Says:
Nov 7, 2009 - Thunderf00ts points stand on their own. So he stuttered, big deal! He destroyed Ray.
leet3lite Says:
Nov 8, 2009 - I agree. Thunderf00t could have called Ray out on a lot more and not let Ray control the talk as much as he did. The most glaring part for me was the part on morality and Ray asking about Pedophilia. Thunderf00t could have easily called him on the fact that the Bible makes no ban or mention on pedophilia as being immoral or bad. It was really unfortunate that Thunderf00t didn't take that huge opportunity to point out that morality doesn't come from scripture.
Malsipots Says:
Nov 22, 2009 - It was all it could ever be. Comfort saying god did it with little ot no real argument and Tf00t out of his comfort 'pardon the pun' zone. I agree that rays a salesman and thats how he came across. Tf00t let him off the hook and did allow him to control the situation still, I dont think that comfort made any friends.



Munro1Man Says:
Oct 10, 2009 - Evolution will never be proven to be law, as it is already in a higher state. You take the facts and the laws and then you build a theory around them. It is a common misconception that things start out as theories and then become facts and then laws. Its the other way around.