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yshoon90 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - ok i think misinterpreted what i said...I didn't say that getting rid of racism or sexism was going overboard...it was of course actually better. But I said that the world became too liberal, and from getting rid of things, it became accepting new things, such as porn and violence and etc. That is what i mean by going overboard.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - Yes...we ARE supposed to thank God for all the good things that God is giving to the world, but that does not mean that world is getting better. People are supposed to thank God for what they have, but that does not mean from what they get. If one loses a leg from a car accident, one might blame God for this but one might thank God for saving his life or not losing two legs. Do you see my point? The world getting worse should not stop anyone from thanking God for what they still have.
Genius83 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - I wasn't for one second saying we shouldn't. But why are you so focuses on all that seems bad with the world? My point was that there are so many good things happening out there and in many areas things are getting better and better. They say that the divide between the developed and 3rd world is getting bigger. I don't know for deffinite if thats true, but, there are now more charities and people out there helping in those countries (many trying to do Gods work) than there has ever been!
Genius83 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - On top of that, part of the reason we think things are getting worse is phsycological. The world is a much smaller place these days - we travel and see more than ever before. The media are able to report on more than they ever were before. We know more about what is going on around the planet more than we ever have in the past. As a result we now see the negative things that are happening more clearly, but these things have alwasy been happening. In the past, ignorance was Bliss!
Genius83 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - Hmm I kinda get what your getting at. I'm not sure just how much more we do accept porn compared to the past. Again I think it was just covered up more and 'swept under the rug' as it were more in the past. Violence has increased to some extent I agree. In Britian, I firmly believe this is a blip that will eventually pass as multicultural society evolves. Violent crime tends to get reported more now too than it use, so again much of it went unknown.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - I wasn't for one second saying that there are no good things in the world. I just mean that there are more bad things than the past. And i do know that many people are trying to do God's work, but statistically, in developed countries the number of Christians decreased so much. In the US, % of people going to the church in the 1950's was 50%, but now it is less than 10%. None of the European countries now can be called Christian nations anymore. I think less Christians= world getting worse.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - I kind of disagree, because it must have been ignorance in the past, but not now. We know so much things that went on the past- Hitler's genocide of the Jews, Stalin's totalitarian rules, etc. People did not know during WWII about the genocide of the Jew, nor how many people were killed during Stalin's rule, but we know now. Knowing that, comparing that to contemporary times, i think world is getting worse.
Soldiergirl7777 Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - Thank you for the song. Jesus says LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
rachiekins15 Says:
Nov 17, 2009 - oops....i really meant to say "thumbs up!" Praise His name!!!
Zuckerperle117 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - I like this song...God is great 33
Genius83 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - What happened in world war 2 cannot be used as a way of saying the world is getting worse. If anything that is yet another direct example of how it has become better. Whats more, if we use Europe as an example, all the EU countries get on very well with one another in modern times. I don't understand what you getting at here when you say that by comparing that to now, the world is worse - I partly blame the 500 character limit we have here for this as well.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - you missed my point- i'm saying that the world getting worse is not psychological- my previous comment was a reply to your previous comment. please read it again.
Genius83 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - One thing I think I can agree with you on though is that obviously I'm not gonna change your mind on this, but oppositely there is no way your gonna change my mind either. The world has learned more over the past century than it has from any previous century, so much of it with positive outcomes (as well as bad). You have to remember the media constantly focus on the bad - I sometimes wonder how it would be if the media put as much effort into the good that is going on how we would feel?
Genius83 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - "it must have been ignorance in the past, but not now. " Well thats basically what I said when I said that ignorance was Bliss. And we are not as ignorant now - we now know these awful things happen, but the problem is so many of them always did happen. So its not that the world has got worse, its that we are now aware of these things happening.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - Yes, usually debates can't make anyone change their minds, i knew that from the begining- but this page was to present what my opinion on the issue that you have presented. And yes, if there is a good to something, there usually is negative outcome as well, and i think it is just a personal opinion to what anyone thinks of it as good or bad. And yes, media does inform us of bad things alot, but there are some things that are so bad that even govt refuses to put in the media as well.
Genius83 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - "but there are some things that are so bad that even govt refuses to put in the media as well. " Which again is nothing new - that has been going on since the twilight days of news broadcasts on television. As humans we are alwasy learning, and often from our mistakes. I have faith that, although nothing will ever be perfect, we will one day (not necessairly in our life time) start getting more things right to the benefit of everyone. I DON'T believe the Nuclear bombs will start dropping...
Genius83 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - ...If I did believe/feel such things were gonna happen, what would be the point in trying in life? I mean seriously what point would there actually be?
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - OK...you are going off the road. I do know that its nothing new, but you said that "You have to remember the media constantly focus on the bad", implying that my bad impression of the world is caused from the media and that if media focuses on good things more, that world would be a better place. I'm just saying that media is also hiding bad things as much as not broadcasting about good things of the world.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 18, 2009 - Yes, and since i am aware of it, when i compare the things happening now and things that happened in the past, i think the world is getting worse- that's what i am saying!!! I'm just couter-arguing to the point you made- that my bad impression of the world may be from the psycological effect from the influence of the media.
Genius83 Says:
Nov 19, 2009 - To which I have already stated (please re-read as well) that this is nothing new and has also alwasy been happening. There is no going off the road (nice attempt to throw insults in now as well). Everything in my comments have always been related back to my original or in answer to yours. Ypu say I'm not getting you, I think there is a bit of that in reverse, although I partly blame the fact we have only 500 characters at a time.
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 19, 2009 - i'm sorry if you took my comment as an insult, i think our replies are getting mixed up and is getting confusing...
yshoon90 Says:
Nov 19, 2009 - hmm i just noticed one of my replies got erased...maybe that's why
Genius83 Says:
Nov 20, 2009 - I assure you that wasn't me. Youtube can be strange sometimes when 2 comments are posted at the same time or within a short period of one another? And yeah your right. Like I keep saying, I think the whole 500 character thing doesn't help + as you say the replying to different sections of the discussion. Apology accepted :-)
swawsome101 Says:
Nov 20, 2009 - This is a good song : ) It's a little tricky playing on Bass guitar though :P



Genius83 Says:
Nov 16, 2009 - ...You know we are suppose to thank God for all the good things and blessing in the world. And there are plenty of those as well! If we want to look on the world constantly as if its getting worse, then whats the point in trying?