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edugaran2k Says:

Jan 22, 2009 - wow. real legends!

luap1236 Says:

Feb 2, 2009 - I used to look up to these types... but they are now criminally out of touch. Like politicians incapable of answering a tough question about ethics.... wow... I guess I grew up.

augustthorn Says:

Mar 18, 2009 - Could you expand on why?

augustthorn Says:

Mar 18, 2009 - Yeah...I guess kids play video games.... what?

luap1236 Says:

Mar 18, 2009 - When the lady asks that penetrating question about social responsibility, they see to treat her like a kind loony and avoid really addressing her concern as if the industry can't be changed or that they have no responsibility. I used to feel liek that but I changed and my shop took a stand doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyoudotthe1101experimentdotorg

augustthorn Says:

Mar 18, 2009 - I'm in AIGA, and anytime I, or anyone else asks a similar question about responsabilty or sustainability, we get the same treatment. That's why I hated Alex's "yeah, I guess kids play video games" Checked your site...Love everything about your mission. Great look too. I used to work for a brand shop just like yours. I miss it deeply. Sadly they closed due to personal conflicts at the top. Maybe if we all keeping working hard, we can eliminate the constitutive other, and be a family again.

luap1236 Says:

Mar 18, 2009 - Indeed. Indeed. Stay in touch.

fepe09 Says:

May 4, 2009 - they cant answer questions for their life. bogusky thinks he is funny, but he is not!

differently Says:

May 19, 2009 - Simply put, it's not his job to do what that lady is asking. It would be like if someone said, "hey Lee Clow, great job on that car campaign, but did you know people die in car accidents? What are you doing to stop car accidents or increase road safety?" -- how would that be relevant to what he does? It really isn't his job to worry about that. These guys work on tons of different products. Some things aren't healthy. Navigating the terrain of who should eat hamburgers, that's not his job.

augustthorn Says:

May 22, 2009 - I see your point, but the "not my job" mentality is akin to "just following orders". The future for people is going to have to have a heightened level of community mindedness. Moral laziness just isn't going to cut it anymore.

augustthorn Says:

May 22, 2009 - Not that these guys are morally lazy...CP + B did a great job on "truth".

differently Says:

May 22, 2009 - I was going to address that, but ran out of space. We're talking about hamburgers, here. This isn't a moral issue. Nutrition and health are the responsibility of the individual, not the community. If someone eats french fries for every meal and gets fat because of it, that's their own fault, they made a bad choice. Alex Bogusky didn't force feed them, he made a game with a mascot riding a bike. It's not a "just following orders" excuse, it's "I never said that, and you should know better."

differently Says:

May 22, 2009 - Y'know what, though, you do have a good point. It's not responsible to say that people 'should know better' without an answer to where they should learn these better habits from. People choose for themselves, but only at the mercy of the information that's been provided to them. Without full disclosure they're helpless to make the right choices. So, responsible marketing for fast food really should include some instruction on what is and isn't a proper diet. How else are people to know?

augustthorn Says:

May 26, 2009 - OK, I agree with a lot of what you said too. I guess this turned into a boring debate? Sadly, there are a lot of people who just don't know, but at the same time, no one is force feeding anyone. I guess, for me, it was the "I guess kids play video games" line that got me started. Anyway, Everything you said was well said. Nice to see a disagreement on the web not turn into mindless name calling.

adenawittrocketf Says:

Jun 17, 2009 - Nice try. Keep it up check out esteembpo + com for social media marketing. #ZIP#

MrFrankBullitt Says:

Aug 24, 2009 - @ 20:50 - What a coward. Admit that you do things for money. Advertisers do what they're paid to do.

jebsievers Says:

Oct 7, 2009 - At least the thief who stole my $16,000 Lee Clow-stume is putting it to good use and attending lectures.