My Parents Sent Me To An Ex-Gay Therapist

TheYellowtulip Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - You are showing fear? Which means guilt. If you have nothing to hide then why no room for an MRI? Especially if he was affected by his environment he can change. I don't think he would know better than an MRI that is why it is important to have a test to know 100% .

sunfunmancanfan Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - The Yellowtulip, I think that drouin916 was saying that there are tests for being "retarded". Anyway, I think that you should be careful with testing to decipher if your child has similar part(s) of the brain matter that straight women have. Who is to say that the MRI is accurate. Let 's say that it IS "proven" that your child does NOT have the same brain matter chemistry as str8 women, but he is still attracted to men? would you say, "but the MRI says that you are not attracted to men? Curious.

sunfunmancanfan Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - Would you then send your child to a repairative/ex-gay facility? What happens when your child get's married, has a child/ren and is still attracted to men, decides to stop living a lie and either has a secret same-sex affair or tells his wife and child/ren that he is in fact gay afterall?...

TheYellowtulip Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - That is your opinion I could say the same thing about you. Maybe you are retarded for calling people names when you don't agree with them.

TheYellowtulip Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - The MRI is very accurate. The scans showed the right side of the brain in heterosexual men was typically 2% larger than the left. Lesbians showed a similar asymmetry, with the right hand side of the brain 1% larger than the left.

sunfunmancanfan Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - The Yellowtulip, I hope that you did not think that I was saying that you are retarded. I do not speak about people in that manner. I was only trying to point-out to you that I believed that you may have misunderstood what drouin916's comment meant when he/she said, "The Yellowtulip you are retarded, there are tests for that!" Your response was, "I know there are tests for that. That is why I said I would want my son to prove it to me with a test...."

sunfunmancanfan Says:

Nov 6, 2009 - continued I believed that brouin916 was saying that there are tests for retardation.

MikuruBeamu Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - My parents did the EXACT same thing to my sister. Focus on the Family is a terrible group and has hurt my family so much.

thesmartass9999 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - Me? Fear? Guilt? Hiding?. What Are You Talking About? You think that gay people hide, that they are really straight? And by getting an MRI will unmask that fact? Explain that to me... and the afftected by his environment thing, so i can better understand your thought on that...

TheYellowtulip Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - I don't think that they hide and are really straight. I think some gay people are born gay but some are not and a test is the only way to find out.

thesmartass9999 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - What does it matter?

TheYellowtulip Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - It matters because straight parents prefer that their children are straight and if the test shows that the child is not homosexual then it might be easier to change than for a person who is born this way.

thesmartass9999 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - maybe... But How can you talk for all the straight parents... you have no idea what having a gay kid is like so i wouldn't be judging ahead of time, i would hope you will love your kids for how that they are, and support them in being happy kids to live a long heathly life. forcing issues never help, i hope thats understood, you would nevr want your kid/s to do something terrible to themselves. Gay couples can adopt and get a homeless kid a loving home, and you still can have a grandchild. :)

TheYellowtulip Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - Yes all straight parents will prefer a straight child not only to have a granchild but because that is what looks right to straight parents. 2 men and 2 women holding hands or kissing looks strange to straight parents and they want their children to be like them. I am not saying all parents will not accept their gay children or love them. I am saying that if there is a way to change it I would do everything I can and if it is not possible I would have to accept it and love my child.

thesmartass9999 Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - ok, im sure a few people would dissagree with you on that, but that is your opinion, and your intittled to it. and i think you need to look back at your comment..."looks strange to straight parents and they want their children to be like them." Anyway And if you believe in a way to change it, i hope it will work... and everything you can hopefully in a way not to push them away from you. and if that didn't work im glad to hear you would not disown them. they would need you love and support...

Stepback84 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - "No scientific studies have ever showed fluidity in sexual orientation" I beg to differ... See for example, "Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation" RL Spitzer, Archives of sexual behavior, 2003 Oct; 32 (5): 403-17

supreme21 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Great advice man

stephenisakeeper Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - Here here I so agree with you.

freterguy Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - Thanks for sharing your story. I loved it.

ikinmoore Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - Why do religious Americans have a problem with Homosexuality. This is the 21st Century not the middle ages. Most Christians are way behind the scienific evidence on Gays. The Church needs waking up !

peachykeensteve Says:

Nov 16, 2009 - Good job, one study that simply assumes for various reasons left undisclosed that the self-proclaimed ex-gays were not simply creating an elaborate self-deception versus the dozens of studies that indicate clearly that sexuality is not fluid for the majority of people and cannot be changed. I bet you want a cookie now.

Stepback84 Says:

Nov 18, 2009 - The operant word is "some". Some gays (who want to) can and have experienced diminishing of same sex attraction and increase in opposite sex attraction. Moreover, there is no evidence to support a universal or superlative notion of orientation immutability. Throwing out convenient explanations like "they're all in denial" does not prove anything. These people who have changed actually exist. Yes I like cookies, but I don't know what that has to do with it.

peachykeensteve Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - "They're all in denial" isn't a "convenient" explanation; rather, it's typically observable in such individuals who claim that they have actually changed. If a person has a bisexual orientation with a preference for one over the other, sure, in such a situation it's feasibly possible to change the preference, but don't think that a straight man can be counseled gay or a gay man counseled straight. With that, I'm finished with this conversation.

rrrandommman Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - Great inside story, thank you very much for being brave enough to whistle blow, and demonstraiting knowledge and trust in yourself.

Kapidye29 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Nice story, thanks.