BART Cop Arrested In Oscar Grant Shooting

rootslandgreat Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - This is a racist crime!! Fuck american cops, bastards!!!! This is the face of justice in USA, is the same justice from Bush and anothers!!! sad but true!!!!! from a Brazilian boy, rio de janeiro city

DavieDave59 Says:

Nov 20, 2009 - @DetectiveCrockett77 uum.. he was lying on the ground.. and was executed straight in the back as he was handcuffed.

DetectiveCrockett77 Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - DavieDave, a) You can't call it an execution. An execution is an intentional killing. We don't know that this was intentional on Mehserle's part. b) So many of you people keep bringing up that Grant was shot in the back. Being shot in the back doesn't mean shit. Neither does being handcuffed (which Grant WASN'T, by the way). At the end of the day, in order to prove murder, you have to prove Mehserle killed Grant either intentionally or with malice. He clearly didn't.

treyflipordie Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - so if you were laying on the ground, unarmed, and somebody shot you in the back you wouldnt call them a murderer?

DetectiveCrockett77 Says:

Nov 21, 2009 - Depends. If you can prove the killing was intentional, or done with a malicious state of mind, then yes. Otherwise, no. What you have to understand is that the victim's position doesn't make it murder. Neither does whether or not he was armed. It's all about mens rea (state of mind) on the killer's part. That's why they have charges like manslaughter and negligent homicide on the books.

lmelvinshs4sho Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - when a person is handcuffed. there is no reason to pull out a gun... (deadly force was used when it was not needed).. BOTTOM LINE

DetectiveCrockett77 Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - Thank you for your invaluable input! No offense, man, but you're adding a point to the conversation that has already been made a million times. (FYI, Grant wasn't actually completely cuffed. He was adequately restrained, though.)

cyclonexiv Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - Regardless of the state of mind the officer had at that moment when he pulled the trigger the law states when you shoot an unarmed restrained man in the back without good cause its called murder unless proven otherwise in a court of law !!!

DetectiveCrockett77 Says:

Nov 22, 2009 - Cyclo, That's not true at all. The fact that Grant was unarmed and shot in the back--even "without good cause"--doesn't make it murder, because it doesn't demonstrate that Mehserle acted with malice or with intent to kill. Common sense should tell you that. It's manslaughter or negligent homicide.

mjsc99 Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - I hope this cop gets off......... One less loser, I am so sick of people making that felon out to be a good guy

ErthOner Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - Wow!...... This is fuckin crazy. I cannot believe the comments that im reading for this video. This is America and this by anymeans is fuckin wrong! No matter who this kid was, he clearly didn't deserve that and that cop should burn in hell with fuckin guilt flameing on his back. And for mjsc99, you fuck off!!. Go suck on a pigs dick and burn in hell with him u fuckin bastard. your the fuckin looser. Go to some other country where shit like this is normal, Because this shit is not American!!

IKIEIEIPIEIR Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - Oink Oink piggy lawls great job oakland police

angelo3718 Says:

Nov 23, 2009 - this is to MSJ99 i hope u get shot by the police while your in handcuffs and then we will say i glad they shot you

foreheadboy Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - America troops are in Iraq...while there's a war at home.

chocolatepaisley Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Was he a felon? You know that? Was he armed? Are you absolutely certain you want the police to do this? Because you think you will be exempt. Shall we eliminate due process?

chocolatepaisley Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Oh, and excuse me but who is the felon again?

chocolatepaisley Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - When you shoot a person at point blank range it is with intent to kill. Point blank.

DetectiveCrockett77 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Nope. You're dead wrong. Point blank range doesn't matter in the slightest, because it has no logical bearing on the shooter's state of mind. An accidental shooting can happen at point blank, you know. In fact, in this case, if ANYTHING, the fact that it was at point blank points AWAY from murder. If Mehserle wanted Grant dead, why fire just ONE shot? Why not finish the job? Why leave it to chance? This is what you people aren't thinking about. It's manslaughter.

cyclonexiv Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - You happen to be commenting in a hypothetical sense in which your defending this police officer. Regardless of who's opinion is right this officer was arrested for murder and it will be up to the court to bring justice.

armoredmex116 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - I hope someone shoots you in the face, bitch.

mjsc99 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - looser?? it's spelled loser, get an education

mjsc99 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - I'm pretty sure I can say that won't happen..... I don't start shit with people on bart, I'm not a thief, or whatever Oscar compiled in his thick rap sheet......... but wishful thinking

mjsc99 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - Yes, he was a felon....... if you actually watched the news while this was taking place you would know.

mjsc99 Says:

Nov 24, 2009 - I'm sure your ghetto ass will get shot before me

next12win Says:

Nov 26, 2009 - As much as I think usual police brutality stories are bullshit and come from racist black people, this time, it's clear as day. This kid was executed plain and simple. And I don't buy the story that he pulled his gun instead of his taser. I own many guns and a taser, there is no way you can't tell the difference between the two instantly. This cop belongs in jail.