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restlez2002 Says:

Sep 24, 2009 - is it dangerous because of 1)the mind conditioning? 2)the Buddhist aspect? 3)that it changes worldviews? 4)you are not aware of what is happening to you? many other things in our lives fit into all these categories ye we don't see them as dangerous..

CANAMarcia Says:

Sep 24, 2009 - For all 4 reasons. I did this type of meditation for about 12 or 13 yrs. I think mind conditioning is always dangerous. And just because it seems to have some benefits does not make it okay.

jimjimjoejimjoe Says:

Sep 25, 2009 - Could you please explain what you MEAN by worldview........I have been usuing this method for about 12 months now.......I am interested in what you have to say....:-) Thanks in advance....**light love and peace**

CANAMarcia Says:

Sep 25, 2009 - A worldview is how you interpret what you see and experience. Buddhist meditation gets you into a state of mind in which your judgment and critical thinking are suspended. Of course, Zen considers this a good thing, but it's a actually a method that undermines your ability to think and subtly alters your thinking. But since Zen devalues thinking and people fall for this, they think it's good.

CANAMarcia Says:

Sep 25, 2009 - jimjim, I am an exastrologer and CANAMarcia is a previous Youtube name. Youtube won't let me sign in as exastrologer for some reason.

KhenpoDarma Says:

Sep 26, 2009 - Remember Ram Bonjom, aka Palden Dorje who has been meditating in Nepal for over 4 years under a tree? Well, from November 18th to the 23rd, 2009 Palden Dorje will be giving blessings in Gadhi Mai. He plans this appearance in order to protest the sacrificing of tens of thousands of animals before they take place on the 24th at the Gadhi Mai Festival near Nijgad in Bara District. Please participate in any way you can. Tell all your friends!

fair7deal Says:

Sep 26, 2009 - Understand Meditation - The Concept watch?v=EkDm8guIjB0

TheExastrologer Says:

Sep 26, 2009 - I was exastrologer and CANAMarcia, the name I used below, was a previous YouTube name on another computer, so I replied with that. YouTube was not letting me sign on as exastrologer no matter what I tried. So I had to create a new account in the name of TheExastrologer. So CANAMarcia, exastrologer, and TheExastrologer are all me!

doug18able Says:

Sep 29, 2009 - I wouldn't listen to this crap. I would do it yourself and if it doesn't work then don't do it. Of course it changes your world view, but most people in this world have some really fucked up thinking and you can find that out by turning on your tv and listening to the news at night. Its dangerous, driving your car is dangerous, but i don't think you would call off work to tell your boss, "I'm not going to work cause driving is dangerous" lol. Post some facts and maybe i will listen.

doug18able Says:

Sep 29, 2009 - And if what you see and experience is harmfull to yourself and to others, then i would say meditation might have a big impact on you. You have been doing this for 12 years, but i never heard Jon Kabat Zinn say anything about devaluing your thinking. "But since Zen devalues thinking and people fall for this" Do you have any facts to back up this claim?

TheExastrologer Says:

Sep 29, 2009 - Proponents of Zen make the case for me re thinking. Reality or truth is only to be apprehended through some kind of beyond thought realizations. So you are set up for this through meditation, which does have physiological effects that make you think it's spiritual. But this is not a good forum to debate. I posted what I did for those receptive to it, not to argue with Zen proponents.

doug18able Says:

Sep 29, 2009 - I don't do it to get anywhere or try to be more spiritual. I do it for my health. Just like playing a sport or working out we don't call that spiritual. We call that taking care of our body. In the same way i call this mediation practice exercising the brain or mind or whatever you want to call it. Oh and by the way im not a Zen proponents. Just because it didn't help you, doesn't mean it gives you the right to tell people not to do it. Let them discover it for themselves.

TheExastrologer Says:

Sep 29, 2009 - No matter why you did it or whether you call it Zen or not, it is Zen, with Kabat-Zinn giving his own spin to it maybe, but still Zen. He is a Zen Buddhist or at least a proponent of Zen. I am warning people; i do have that right. I am not telling people what to do. This is still the U.S.A. right? At least, that's where I live. Free speech and all that good stuff, you know. I'm amazed at how many who say they are tolerant only want comment by those who agree with them.

doug18able Says:

Sep 29, 2009 - No matter why you did it or whether you call it Zen or not, it is Zen. No thats your truth. Your right you did warn people, but i guess I didnt read your post careful. So my mistake. I really don't want you to agree with me, but if you can't post any facts to back up your claims to why you think its dangerous, then im going to say something.

ladyblueday Says:

Sep 30, 2009 - I feel greatly honoured to have the opportunity to hear Jon speek. Mindfulness has helped me come away from the mindless chatter in my head that only serves to intrench me in depression and anxiety. Living moment to moment and paying true attention to what is has healed me more then years of counselling ever could. Thank you Jon for reintroducing me to myself

doug18able Says:

Oct 2, 2009 - Wells its good to hear someone here understand what this man is talking about. Thats awesome to here ladyblueday.

Missbee333 Says:

Oct 9, 2009 - I found this video very interesting. It is a breath of fresh air to learn about an alternaive perspective of living, and to be able to practice it too. Mindfulness meditation helped to ground me in this very busy and often confusing existence. We can all go on attending to every thought and every demand in this lifetime or we can make choices on whether to respond and how we respond. Thank you for this lecture Google. You are blessed to have a workplace that values psychological development.

ordinarymonkey Says:

Oct 9, 2009 - I've been practicing Zen for about 8 years and Jon Kabat-Zinn's style of mindfulness meditation too - I'm training to teach it. They are closely related, but not exactly the same. Both JKZ and Zen teach that our thoughts are not facts. We identify very strongly with our thoughts, believing them as reality. Zen does not teach us not to think, but to recognise that our thoughts are exactly what they are - thoughts. Critical thinking is healthy.

gaurav1221 Says:

Oct 21, 2009 - i watched that in 3 parts.. that was way too long for one sitting..

f1ghtclub2k3 Says:

Oct 26, 2009 - love this clip....Jon Kabat zinn is awesome....WE NEED MORE GUIDED MEDITATION VIDEOS doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yngve0007 Says:

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webgriet Says:

Nov 14, 2009 - Great workshop - John Kabat-Zinn is showing us meditation without New Age bull shit. What a nice teacher. Like this a lot. Thank you !

aminjani Says:

Nov 15, 2009 - i teach energy cultivation

livenowdoing Says:

Nov 16, 2009 - This is a wonderful video. The awareness, intuition and mindfulness that is spoken about is our true nature - the real us. Meditation is one way of accessing awareness. The thinking that thinks it is us (ego) is what blocks awareness. Another more direct, rapid and permanent way is to center yourself in awareness and verbally deprogram the thinking by talking to it out loud. Train the thinking not to be you but to follow you in what ever you do.

bkrumlauf Says:

Nov 19, 2009 - @webgriet ...Just as an FYI...Kabat-Zinn is a full-on Buddhist teacher. Try 2500 year-old practice rather than new age. What he's done very skillfully is taken the basic practice and principals of Buddhism and applied them outside of the religious/spiritual context.