Sir Oswald Mosley 'british union'

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - A Hitlarious [sic] "speech".

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - You have fatally misunderstod the issue. You as a humanist have the temerity to scrutanise Mosley for his non existant association with a certain mass murderer in central europe despite yet are quite happy to draw your political energy from other genocidal maniacs. I am NOT a humanist, I have no need to lie about my inspiration, Mosley could have slaughtered the east end and drank their blood and it would not bother me so long as it was necissary. You are still a hypocrite.

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - You ever heard hitler give a mild mannered fireside chat like this?

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 9, 2009 - A homely little exegesis on the merits of that poisonous, racist creed known as Fascism - I'll grant you that, Ben you little Blackshirt! I wasn't aware of being a "humanist" - other than in the original Erasmian sense of that word, that is. Mosley's links with Corporal Hitler have been enumerated many times by historians and other commentators. As for "genocidal maniacs" being the source of my inspiration - I have no idea what this means. Grow up, Ben - burn that Blackshirt.

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 9, 2009 - It is called a Greenshirt now terry what do you think I am stupid? Also on current trends black may not be a good idea in case we get accused of dressing up our party members in emo rags. in my book humanist = somebody who believes that human life has intrinsic value and shares the same rights. BLUUURGH give me a world of hierachy and pitlyless inequality, the thought alone brings me tears of joy. yes yummy yummy Fascism.

Byzantium22 Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - If the people of Britain in1933 could see what has happened now to the Britain of today and it's former Empire I have no doubt that the great leader Oswald Mosley would have been hailed and exulted nationally as a truly great British statesman and visionary.

Byzantium22 Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - Proud young Australian and patriot!

Byzantium22 Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - It is a great shame that a brilliant ideology and form of effective national government must forever be tainted by the extremes of the German Nazi racial genocide that occurred during the second world war! Thankyou Herr Hitler for ruining two great Nordic Nations and imposing world wide American hedgemony upon us! If only the Bloody Austrian Corporal could have been content without that small free city of Danzig! Fascism would have survived,flourished, and thrived!

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 10, 2009 - "Greenshirt"! Yes, and Fascism is now "Integralism". A change of name, not of content and risible ideology. As for hierarchy inequality - all Fascists - Mosley, Hitler, little Ben - want to turn the clock back to pre-Enlightenment days. Unless they are being ironical - though, "many a true word spoken in jest", eh, Ben? For Chrissakes, grow up.

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - Your entire world view is based of chilidish utopianism and you have the temerity to tell 'me' to grow up!? Integralism is based on nature and science and is as grounded in realism as humanly possible. It is you who has his head in the clouds with his deluded precepts of what life is about.

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - Utopianism? I said Erasmus - not More, you nitwit. Every micky-mouse political charlatan claims that his "philosophy" is based on "nature and science". Oh, Ben! How do you presume to know what my "precepts" are? Let alone that they are deluded? I repeat: grow up, Ben. Fascism (like Communism) was no joke for those who had to live under it.

zargzargman Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - @Byzantium22 Hmm Hitler led a true democracy, where there was one leader, who would bear the consequences of his own decisions, unlike the paliamentarian scoundrels. He did away with the evils of the Marxist Plague, and the resounding slap in the face of the democracy, and terror it exerted into the hearts of men, a truly Jewish effontery...

zargzargman Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - @TerrySleeper Those who had to live under it supported this true democracy. It defeated the raving plague of Marxism; the Jews as ever hold the strings. They use the trashy liberal press to stir the fists of the proletariat against anyone who dare oppose them, or is capable of opposing them, with the help of party desserts, thieves, terror and violence! However, we must learn to fight fire with fire; if encountered with a doctrine of truth, but the same fear, we will prevail...

zargzargman Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - @peppermintjohn666 Exactly. Showing humanitarianism to the weaker peoples, as the strongest must dominate the weakest, is what nature resists. It is like a fox showing humanitarianist tendencies to the weaker goose... It will never occur.

zargzargman Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - @peppermintjohn666 Yes, certainly untrue =) If there would be no strong and weak, there would be nothing to separate the weak peoples from the strong. Have you read Mein Kampf, B.U.F Policy, the 'Jewish' question etc, etc?

Byzantium22 Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - I dont see how fascist totalitarianism is a democracy and Hitler himself loathed the definition of the word democracy. Hitler was a brilliant politician for Germany but was not a brilliant strategist and general as well. My point was he should have either been content with what he had created by 1939 or not started a global war on two fronts in 1941 which the Reich was bound to loose.

Byzantium22 Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - that war that he lost ensured fascism's demise across Europe and Britain

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - The so called enlightenment is based on the precepts of the Christian religion which through virture of its supernatural moral system is fundementally unnatural . This requires a leap of faith eg you believe in human rights yes? that in itself is an 'eternal value' which exists outside nature and the material world. Though I am very aware you have dodged the question of your political identity, you make it VERY clear what your moral outlook is.

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 12, 2009 - On the other hand pre christian forms of morality, whilst based on spiritual precepts are spiritual precepts that are innate to the condition of man. This is why the theories of Machiavelli, Hobbes, and Plato whom the enlightenment is a reaction against, are sometimes referred to as the 'Pagan argument'. I can say with conviction that Integralism is based on nature because rather than a empoying a system that is a means to an end it is the means that are the end as a system of moral being.

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - All this is bullshit. Totalitarian systems of government - Fascist or Communist - are about the weak being clobbered by the strong. It is the politics of the farmyard - of the dog's bark and the pig's grunt. It is unworthy of civilized beings.

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 13, 2009 - Civilized society, that is EXACTLY what springs to mind when I think of modern britain. I would live to debate this more with you but your prejudice and ignorance is starting to get to me and I am beginning to find you a tugid bore.

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 15, 2009 - Prejudice ignorance are the stock-in-trade of boneheaded, pig-ignorant Fascists, not of reasonable decent-minded ( patriotic) people. Fascism would turn the world into a hellish boneyard, lorded over by monkeys like Mosley who, mistakenly ( inexplicably), believed themselves fit to direct and dominate others. Fascism really opened up the depth of society for politics. People living through the hellish 1930s realised this fought against it heart and soul. How right they were!

zargzargman Says:

Nov 15, 2009 - @TerrySleeper idiot

TerrySleeper Says:

Nov 15, 2009 - Razor-sharp rebuttal, zargzargman! At least Blackshirt Ben puts up a token resistance.

peppermintjohn666 Says:

Nov 16, 2009 - Yes it is a good thing all those starving destitute people fought to protect the system otherwise their human rights might be in danger. HAR HAR HAR.