Radiohead - Just

twooffour Says:

Oct 22, 2009 - Hey, I'm not making any particular claim about this video (I don't know enough about it), but in general: wanting to make people think + not having put any thought into it yourself = making up random worthless stuff so people start scratching their head... over nothing. If that's your image of the "meaning of art" to you, then hey, fine.

twooffour Says:

Oct 22, 2009 - Then I wouldn't throw around with statements like "intention of ALL art" - not everyone agrees what constitutes "art", and for some, creating a complex work with lots of THOUGHT and mastery put into it is art... while some cheap movie with lots of unresolved mysteries and no particularly brilliant thought behind it (just to make people discuss on forums) is not.

drummerdickens Says:

Oct 22, 2009 - You are putting words in my mouth. I never said "all art is randomness put together" did I? I said: "Practically all art is made to make people think." All though doing it in a different WAY, this video has made people think. I haven't said anything particularly outlandish and certainly haven't said anything incorrect. Stop being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative.

twooffour Says:

Oct 22, 2009 - hi? test?

twooffour Says:

Oct 22, 2009 - Me: "IF(!!!) you just make up random stuff and people start discussing it, I'm afraid you haven't really "succeeded" at anything." You: "...unless your intention was to make people think. Which is practically the intention of ALL art" If you can't follow the basic logical implication of your response in that context, then please stop responding. I also never said you said that "ALL art is randomness", so I guess stop with the strawmen yourself.

twooffour Says:

Oct 22, 2009 - Of your response and the comment I was responding to, that is. Hey, I don't argue it's interesting to study who some random stuff (without intended meaning, i.e. no particular reason for the creators to have made the things the way they are = random) can still produce reasonable discussions and interpretations, but does the creator deserve undisputed credit for that? Nope. Again, nothing particularly about this video.

smpowis Says:

Oct 24, 2009 - TLDR - pointless, boring conversations contribute to nothing. Video-related comment, I enjoyed this song.

ten4roger Says:

Oct 31, 2009 - He tells everone the meaning of life and states how our lives are insignificant and the rat race we live in is pointless.

Boqiro Says:

Nov 1, 2009 - What's he telling them? Wait....forget it. I don't wanna know.

onlytilthen Says:

Nov 1, 2009 - Here is my interpretation: The man on the street is Jesus. In fact, the man who trips over him even says, "Jesus, are you okay?" Radiohead, watching from above and unseeable from the street, represents God. What do you think?

orgyfanx Says:

Nov 2, 2009 - hot

Gastly333 Says:

Nov 3, 2009 - It's very good point of view, I liked it)

Gastly333 Says:

Nov 3, 2009 - Well...Weird video. And maybe a little scary, but it's geniously. **

drummerdickens Says:

Nov 3, 2009 - It seems to me that you don't like the fact an almost effortless method has resulted in plenty of people pondering the videos meaning. I agree it might be cheap but the results of this effortless video are the same as many other videos or artworks that may or may not have taken vast amounts of thought and mastery. If your target audience starts talking about your piece regardless of the methods, you've succeeded in my opinion.

twooffour Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - Again, I still don't know how it was the case with this particular video, but again - if an "artist" throws out some random picture with no particularly elaborated thought behind it, and people start talking, you'll need to ask yourself WHAT they are... talking about. They're trying to figure out the meaning of the video, right? Well, if there IS no meaning, and all the elements dicussed are chosen randomly and thoughtlessly - please tell me how that's supposed to be a compliment for the ...

twooffour Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - .creators, when the people they "got to talk about" are basically talking over nothing? I mean, hey, if "getting people to talk" is the supreme goal of making art or entertainment, then walking naked on the street is also gonna "make people talk". Will their talking be related to, or revolve around the "intellectual complexity" of my "product", still?

drummerdickens Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - An artist at...I forget the university, filmed two friends have sex this week. Read it in the metro. This university graduates stunt got him coverage in national newspapers. It was a meaningless, cheap piece of "art" but the amount of publicity and discussion he generated was his precise aim. Don't shoot the messenger, if you don't agree with it take it up with an artist. But I'm stating fact, its what artists do. They're either trying to put across a message or prompt a reaction

drummerdickens Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - This was the precise aim of THIS video and several other videos. It's a sad fact that there are plenty of untalented or misguided artists, but then if the majority of the world gets suckered into thinking its art, then it is. It's all relative isn't it? I consider Dali and Picasso to be far more talented than Rothko and his blocks of colour and Damien Hirst, but people like their work and spend time appreciating it regardless of the talent and effort put into their pieces.

twooffour Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - If your point is that "poor, thoughtless stuff often gains popularity", then why say anything at all? :)

fernfeyes Says:

Nov 4, 2009 - Anybody can be a poet..you just have to say the words slow.

drummerdickens Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - Because...that's what we're talking about? What kind of thing is that to say, are you trying to win an argument we're not having or something?

twooffour Says:

Nov 5, 2009 - My original point was that just because something is popular and gets people talking doesn't make it "good", and in that context, saying that "lots of mediocre art becomes popular and it's kinda sad", BUT in the form of "it reached its aim, so it's good", is really quite redundant :)

sobeita Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - "I've seen the white plane"?

sobeita Says:

Nov 7, 2009 - Onlytilthen: "The man on the street is Jesus. In fact, the man who trips over him even says, "Jesus, are you okay?" Radiohead, watching from above and unseeable from the street, represents God. What do you think? " If not God, then angels, or perhaps just dead souls in heaven. You may be right, though. I'm not a lip-reader, though, the best I could see was "I've seen the white plane."

twooffour Says:

Nov 8, 2009 - Yea, but your wording made it look as if you were actually DISagreeing with me, i.e. "they achieved their intention and that's all that counts, and it's good".